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Fair enough, but besides the US, almost everybody does believe in climate change. It's not even a question in Europe. In the developing parts of the world the question is whether it is fair that the developed world has profited and enriched itself through industrialism without caring about global warming, and now the developing world is not allowed to. The situation in the US is quite different since there's a disinformation campaign that has been going on for a long time in order to protect the interests of the rich.

In my experience, even my very pro-vaccine friends eventually became more and more unsure whether the government was doing the right thing as the pandemic went on. The fact that we're debating this topic but not climate change also shows it might have more merit than it.

Also as a small-scale experiment: whenever I post these kinds of opinions my comment score does a funny dance where I can see a lot of people are up/downvoting, but the comment score basically stays at 1. That shows that HN itself is pretty split on this issue!



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