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Why can’t this be the default for submitted articles?

HN should wrap all of these articles in an archive link.



or have an option to submit and display unpaywalled links at the top.

I guess though its probably not best for longevity of the site to be seen as a place that encourages this sort of thing.


Because it is stealing, un-capitalism, and evil. HackerNews should BAN archive links like this that go around the paywall, and any mention of tools that allow users to bypass paywalls or ad-like content. I'm so sick of entitled HackerNews users whining about having to pay for services. It's as if they think there are no operating costs.


Stealing and piracy are different

Stealing removes something — nothing is removed here

But maybe this semantic battle is lost because most people make this equivocation

(Not saying piracy is necessarily OK)


Piracy is stealing. So is adblock and circumventing paywalls. You are not stealing the content literally persay, but you are violating a contract and stealing bandwidth that can be for an honest user.

The same goes for all the whiners on HN when YouTube fights back against uBlock Origin. They just want to have their cake and eat it too and won't admit that they are stealing from Google and Content Creators. Privacy is a non-issue.


> HackerNews should BAN archive links like this that go around the paywall, and any mention of tools that allow users to bypass paywalls or ad-like content.

Paywalled articles are generally against HN Guidelines actually, and dang has commented that the exception are articles that have a non-paywalled version available, and in that spirit dang has tacitly acknowledged that HN users do tend to post gift links and archive links and other workarounds in the comments, so that paywalled links that would otherwise be disallowed are then therefore acceptable under the guidelines.

So, you’re right personally to want to support journalism and publications that you enjoy, and please continue to do so. Try not to nerd snipe other HN users, cos we’re all on the same team, and we’re all trying to learn and by doing, to build and grow an open, collaborative community by being nice and good to each other.

I don’t represent HN in any capacity, just a user like you, so please take this as just one person’s opinion and perspective.


I think nerd sniping is when you dangle a super intriguing problem in front of someone, and they can't help but dive into the problem.


Follow-up to my sibling comment as it’s too late to edit:

I don’t really have much exposure to in-the-wild usage of the term, but I’m pretty sure you’re correct about the meaning, and once I thought about it a bit more and the weird way the word is used and how it’s glued together, I came up with the following:

I have no way to verify this, but my folk etymology of nerd sniping is a type of snipe hunt targeted at nerds specifically.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snipe_hunt


> I think nerd sniping is when you dangle a super intriguing problem in front of someone, and they can't help but dive into the problem.

You’re probably correct; I was splitting the infinitive sorta, and I’m probably using that term incorrectly also, so please do correct my usage if you know the correct terminology.

Instead of using it as “nerd sniping” as a compound word, I was using it as “nerd” “sniping”, like nerd betta fish verbally shooting at each other from their own discursive barrels.

“Don’t be a pedant on HN” any% challenge: accepted lol


By that same token, HN should auto-remove links to ClosedAI and other tools (SD, MidJourney, etc) that generate output based on copyrighted material, with no attribution.


Information should be free. I'm glad Archive exists and is "un-capitalism".


I would argue that artificial scarcity like copyright is "un-capitalism" and "evil" :)


I laughed when they called it evil. How absurd!


Wow, that wins and award for needing an /s. Bravo. If there wasn't the "word" un-capitalism


How is it not against the terms of service for the websites that are trying to keep their journalistic content paywalled?


Considering the site that we’re on, I expect users to just have a monkeyscript extension or similar.

Automating this process for thousands of users will land you in a lot of legal trouble.

And in any case.. if you like it, pay up.




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