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How well do you (plan to) support the W3C annotation standards [1], and could one use this as a backend for hypothes.is [2]?

[1] https://www.w3.org/annotation/

[2] https://web.hypothes.is/


hey!

Oli here from the WorldBrain.io team

Yes we are in close contact with the Hypothes.is team and may develop some shared components in the future. We already use their anchoring library.

Internally we don't store the annotations in W3C standard yet, but will provide that as soon as we get to develop the ability to export or access annotations via an API.

How do you imagine Memex being used as a backend in your context? Once we offer more integrations to other services, it is definitely thinkable to also make annotations from Hypothes.is searchable. Is that something along the lines you're thinking of?

Cheers! Oli


Internal representation doesn't matter to me as much as the external view, so I guess I'm actually looking for your planned extensible API - I'll be eagerly awaiting that.

With more and more annotation services, there may come a need for an "annotation manager". Memex could be the manager for Hypothes.is as you suggest, but a separate manager could also use Memex and Hypothes.is as backends. So, for example, the annotation act is done with Memex, but the research stage is done with a separate tool.

Cool product/vision! I like your guys' stance on the user's data and with an API might settle on this one. :)



Maybe it is a question of needing to experience what happens though.

Most people are of the "wait and see" and "you gotta do what you gotta do to survive" mentality. So they "wait" and let events unfold, and survivors in those cascade of events are idealized as morally good.


This is a great format for drilling down! A few recommendations:

* Hovering out instantly resets, which causes you to lose your place. How about a (user-configurable?) timed gradual reset so you can get back to where you were if you accidentally hovered out for a second.

* I am having a hard time wrapping my mind around a flat list as nested - this just might be old habits. Maybe a user setting to indent nested children?

* The colors indicating score could be on more of an obvious scale - I'm having trouble instantly identifying whether green is better than purple, etc. To me, a pale color is less exciting than a 'colorful' color, but pale is used to signify most popular here.

* Maybe you can click+drag to pin multiple comments. The singletons have tiny slices and there's often many of them - it would be nice to view them all at a glance.

* Related to previous, maybe a filter for how deep the subtree is, or by score. Sometimes you don't want to see it all, or want to see only the best (or the worst).

I really like (in the radial presentation) that the newest comments are as accessible as the oldest, and that multiple sort options are available at once without the need for a round trip back to the server (the radial presents age, colors in the radial present relative popularity, the side bar presents global popularity).


This is because of ethical reasons: one of the conditions that Deepmind made with Google in their deal was for an "embargo on using its technology for military and intelligence applications."

Source: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/feb/16/demis-hass...


This is not quite what you asked for, but you can achieve a "managed dual/side pane" with a tiling window manager, letting the window manager keep the outline on the side rather than the browser, so that you don't have to juggle windows yourself. I do this with Tabs Outliner myself and it's quite flexible for me: when I want a full screen vs a side panel, I simply switch between the layouts.


I upvote articles for archival purposes (read it later, reference, etc.), and on topics I am collecting opinions on.


You might be looking for the Tabs Outliner Extension for Chrome. I've been using it heavily for the "middle-state" of saved and not open, but not bookmarked; now I'm looking for a "meta Tabs Outliner"-esque program, but I can't quite articulate my needs...

> What I want is to maintain a list of current references, preferably with some spatial context (tree-mode browsing is great for this) to what the relationship is between pages in my browser session.

Tabs Outliner puts every tab as a leaf in a tree, and you can nest leaves and affect the visual ordering on the tab bar at the same time - you can also do this reordering while the tab isn't even open! This is good for a while, but for me when I have thousands, it's lacking in some retrieval sense: I guess I want to query for just these tabs that have connections, and cross-reference research annotations on these sets of connections.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabs-outliner/eggk...

Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqjcrfKjobY


Hrm....

My first impression on watching this is that it's not quite what I'm looking for (tabs open, list grows, they stay loaded) ... but the ability to close tabs then re-access them looks promising.

The outline part is useful.

OK, this might actually be helpful.

The labeling feature would be handier if I could tag/label sets of tabs.

I'm giving this a shot.

Thanks!


> The labeling feature would be handier if I could tag/label sets of tabs.

You can! Instead of tagging each tab, you can rename the containing window's "Window" text, as if it was a manilla folder. Windows can also be contained in (named) Groups, allowing for hierarchical categories. Bottom-up tags can be accomplished by adding a note as a tag (I like using #hashtags to differentiate from plain text). In terms of retrievability, Ctrl+F doesn't discriminate!

> the clean-out problem: it's a goddamned pain in the ass to go and sort through the stuff you've tossed in there and clean out the junk.

I forgot to mention a workflow video for that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvlK1ttZ3dI

The dev has mentioned elsewhere that this extension is not (yet) designed to organize, but rather to get a handle on the tens/hundreds/thousands of tabs one may have open. It's done it so well that I have a lot of ad-hoc 'fuzzy' categories and random notes inside my outline I would love to be able to manipulate and build into a grand scheme or other. To use an analogy, it's like a great grafter/sieve to separate the wheat from the chaff, but there's no cooking oven.


Yeah, I'm learning.

I'll still say this wasn't quite what I had in mind, but it may well be good enough in terms of tabs management (there's still the content presentation, but that's another story).

I've been watching the vids, and they're really helpful.

I've given this tool mention on my subreddit (comment so far, story likely to follow) and on G+. After tabbed browsing and competing with vimperator, probably the biggest revolution in browsing I've encountered in 17+ years.

http://www.reddit.com/r/dredmorbius/comments/256lxu/tabbed_b...

https://plus.google.com/u/0/104092656004159577193/posts/B43j...


This is an otherwise good choice that I'd consider for my next laptop if it wasn't for no dedicated Home/End and Page Up/Down buttons.


It also goes by the name of principle of charity:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity


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