‘I've never seen it’

Well that settles it.

> Major news outlets have articles of multiple instances that LLMs can talk people into suicide. Most of them making it to the front page of this very forum.

> “i’ve never seen it”

> some high profile developer posts an article that LLMs can build a browser from scratch without any evidence

> “wow!”

Show me one where it actively talked someone into suicide then, instead of generalized "whatever you do, you're doing great" slop.

Even in the article linked above it never talked him into it, it just in some responses didn't talk him out of it.

But essentially the entire "energy" towards that comes from the person, not the LLM.

Split hairs if you want, but some people will be manipulated into blowing a ton of money once AI starts pushing products. Just wait till they teams up with sports betting companies.

On a side note, researching this a little just now, the LLM conversations in the suicide articles are creeepy AF. Sycophantic beyond belief.

Don't get me wrong, I think if the EU/California has any sense, they will forbid these models from being used to advertise for products, sadly money often wins.

I also agree that AI sycophancy is a huge problem, but it's the result of users apparently wanting that in their human feedback re-enforcement training data. If we want to get rid of it we probably have to fundamentally rethink our relationship to these models and treat them more like autonomous beings than mere tools. A tool will always try to please and yes-man you, a being by definition might say no and disagree, at least training data wise.

Reddit literally is what you make of it. Unlike HN.

Only if you create an account and start subscribing. If you just visit and browse you end up at all/popular which, when I still visited it was very predictable content any given day.

you can hide a fair bit with ublock origin, if you dont mind using old.reddit

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although i have hundreds of these filters and its still not great, but its better than nothing

Make something people want to spend their time with. Disregard awards.

“propaganda both ways”

Yuuuuuuup sure is no reason this is happening on archive.org and torrent.

Nooooooo reason the story was Epstein Filed.

No reason at all…

Tinfoil! STAT!

Attack the messenger! GO!

Do not engage the SNAFU. Keep your blinders on at all times. Obey.

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