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Indeed, the original title didn't make that mistake, so we've restored the original title as per the guidelines.

> Dictators will go to sleep just slightly more terrified tomorrow night.

The irony of someone who (presumably, from statements) voted for Trump saying this while their own country tortures, disappears and in some cases murders thousands, plus potentially rigged elections...


I don't see any case of US citizens being tortured, murdered, and disappeared at scale. Source please?

Source on rigged elections? I didn't believe it when Trump cried wolf and I don't believe it when people think 2024 was rigged.

Edit: "But ICE!" - ICE is deporting (not torturing or murdering thousands of) non-citizens. They are doing a fantastic job (low false positive rate, maybe 10/300,000 with 0 permanent citizen deportations.) I am asking specifically about citizens.


We have masked men grabbing people off the streets with no accountability. Perhaps you should be asking for evidence of lack of human rights abuse.

Grabbing illegals* off the streets, which is fine in my book. They also aren't being tortured or killed en masse, so comparing this to Maduro is hysteria at best.

Any non-citizens grabbed (very few! shockingly low false-positive rate, given 300k+ deportations) have been promptly let go.

We could have had a more formal process if the borders weren't opened to literally millions of illegals, but unfortunately that ship has sailed and this is the only practical way to deal with the problem.


> I don't see any case of US citizens being tortured, murdered, and disappeared at scale. Source please?

ICE exists, and does all of those.


Source? How many thousands of citizens has ICE tortured to death?

They didn't use the word "citizens"

You deflected criticism earlier by describing yourself “brown”. Surely you know the US is leading the scoreboard in their murder.

And nobody said citizen. Your posts reek of trolling.


A nation is only ultimately responsible to its citizens. I care not about illegals being deported - in fact, I support it.

The US certainly is not leading the scoreboard in the murder of my people; I regret to inform you that my own people lead the scoreboard in their own murder.


as usual with Trump supporters: trying to make both sides seem "equal" on election rigging, when one side (in 2020) caused Jan 6 to happen and still won't accept the election results from 2020, whereas a few fringe people (I guess) had some problems with 2024.

In your anger you are not reading what I wrote: I don't believe either election was rigged.

It's Trump's version of Reagan's Star Wars - it's all bluster that we will not see any result of, and it will be quietly shelved by future governments.

Only after billions (trillions?) of dollars have been doled out to favored allies of the President though.

Elon Musk already made a few $B on it so far, but he clearly has sights on $T.

It's comparing Honey's behavior to a well-known and comprehended scandal. Simile is a tried and tested way (hah!) to explain otherwise potentially hard to understand or dry content.

It's not about the severity of the impact, its the fact that they were breaking the rules and explicitly coding to actively avoid being caught by testers.


choult: The factors you mention are the factors that led me to propose the "Honey's Dieselgate" title and to compare Honey to VW.

Of course I agree that health is more important than affiliate commissions. So the comparison only goes so far.


Thanks for your contribution to this Ben - I was quite stunned by Megalag's finding, and I agree with you that it could definitely be characterized as wire fraud.

I think the very interesting wrinkle here is that, for the most part, their victims are corporations - meaning, sadly, that it's much more likely they will be prosecuted, either in civil or criminal court.


Probably better to compare to ubers grayball although that may be less well known.

Refusing service (and showing a fake status screen) is in the same ballpark, but dieselgate is a much closer match. They couldn't avoid being put under test, so they had separate behavior based on whether heuristics said it was in a testing environment.

Headline: Saved by Stoppard

Sir, In 1993 my wife and I went to see the first production of Arcadia by Tom Stoppard (obituary, Dec 1), and in the interval I experienced a Damascene conversion. As a clinical scientist I was trying to understand the enigma of the behaviour of breast cancer, the assumption being that it grew in a linear trajectory spitting off metastases on its way. In the first act of Arcadia, Thomasina asks her tutor, Septimus: “If there is an equation for a curve like a bell, there must be an equation for one like a bluebell, and if a bluebell, why not a rose?” With that Stoppard explains chaos theory, which better explains the behaviour of breast cancer. At the point of diagnosis, the cancer must have already scattered cancer cells into the circulation that nest latent in distant organs. The consequence of that hypothesis was the birth of “adjuvant systemic chemotherapy”, and rapidly we saw a striking fall of the curve that illustrated patients’ survival.

Stoppard never learnt how many lives he saved by writing Arcadia.

Michael Baum Professor emeritus of surgery; visiting professor of medical humanities, UCL


Shark jumped.


HN requires titles matching the original; the original title was too long for the character limit so I did my best to edit.

> This mom’s son was asking Tesla’s Grok AI chatbot about soccer. It told him to send nude pics, she says


Full headline still sucks for the same reason. "12 year old boy was asking Tesla’s Grok AI chatbot about soccer. It told him to send nude pics." would be much better IMHO. I wonder if it's phrased the way it is because of the "she says" at the end which might get the CBC off the hook legally since the whole story is based on this mom's account and no further corroboration.


You can view the source's instagram post about this where she tries to prompt grok into repeating the request for nudes. see https://www.instagram.com/p/DP7cHrOD3ha/

It's a creepy voice for any corporation to use for interacting with the public.




Sadly, brigading seems to have gotten the submission of the actual site flagged:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45487771


Vouched beck to life


restored. Anyways, discussion is there


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