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Bingo. Per my comment below...



To be honest, because they're arrogant. It's the same reason they don't adhere to each OS's UX/UI guidelines (including on Windows!) It's an absolute arrogance that they are "above" these platforms.


> It's the same reason they don't adhere to each OS's UX/UI guidelines (including on Windows!)

To be fair, not even Microsoft does that.


Microsoft does a much better job than Google does.


Well microsofts UI style changes every ~3 years, and they don't restyle old stuff, so at any point in time there are 10 or so possible correct stylings...


Also, it's the same arrogance that makes them push AMP so much. What AMP does is awesome just not how they do it. The wrapper, the URL hijacking, the janky scrolling, no reader view ...etc. It completely breaks my normal flow on my phone that I end up making DDG the primary search provider and Apple News (which is not good at all) as the news aggregator.


it's not just arrogant, it's fraud: https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/fraud "A false representation of a matter of fact—whether by words or by conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of what should have been disclosed—that deceives and is intended to deceive another so that the individual will act upon it to her or his legal injury."

Asking for admin rights on install - ostensibly for installation purposes only - and then by concealment retaining those rights for other undisclosed purposes without further gaining the consent of the user seems like fraud to me.

But it's also correct to say that this is how the median software vendor typically does business.


Brutally honest but very true.


I try... but living in the valley, and knowing the people at these companies and on these teams... it's just the truth.


I'm a long way from the valley and regard googles behaviour as arrogant in the extreme, they are 1990's era microsoft with better PR, I don't trust them at all and that they seem to have taken control of the web via soft means is worrying as hell.


This is what happens when they systematically hire fresh grads that more keen on solving interview quiz puzzles than actually building good software. This kind of a mess shows a clear lack of seniority leadership.

Where are the industry veterans at Goole?


tbh It's not like other browsers are particularly good at this either. Firefox is just as bad as chrome when it comes to platform UI guidelines.


You're wrong on this, and the parent poster is right.

Execs in his position have style consultants on retainer.


Agreed. I get high index 1.74 by Seiko Optics. They're incredible with the most durable coating I've ever found.

People who've only gotten cheap glasses/lenses don't even know how important it is. I get my frames from DITA (www.dita.com) and they've lasted me 5+ years, never bend, warp, etc. Lenses get replaced every 2 years.


High index is cosmetic only, it has the same distortion profile.


Higher index lenses tend to have greater chromatic abberation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abbe-diagram_2.svg

In practice different materials of the same index can have significantly different abberation. When I very recently got work-optimized glasses from a local optician, I could sit down and compare the materials they could get. One of the 1.60 index materials (Hoya, I think) was as good as thicker lenses while another (Essilor?) would have given me noticeable fringing on a monitor.

Now try to get a place like Zenni to so much as tell you what they're selling.


Some more relevant numbers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrective_lens#Lens_materials

The general trend is that higher-index materials tend to have lower Abbe numbers, but there are exceptions. Polycarbonate is a cheap and popular mid-index material that's widely recommended on the basis of its mechanical strength. Its index of refraction is 1.59 and its Abbe number is 30, but there are numerous materials with a similar index of refraction around 1.6 and substantially better Abbe numbers of 41-42, or materials with a significantly higher index of refraction (1.67) and Abbe numbers that are slightly better than polycarbonate.

Zenni and EyeBuyDirect don't want to promote awareness of chromatic abberation, but they do make it easy to know whether you're ordering polycarbonate, and they both have 1/6/1.61 index materials with better Abbe numbers than polycarbonate. Zenni uses one of the Mitsui MR materials for their 1.6 lenses.


Yes, but aberration is different than the distortion and is caused by different refractive indexes at different wavelengths. I'm just talking about how it distorts your vision overall.


They're a thing on your FACE. They are not just cosmetic, they are lighter.


Weight affects fit and comfort. Coatings affect clarity and durability.


>Weight affects fit and comfort.

Yes, for 2-3% of customers or something that may be relevant (strong enough prescriptions at the tail of the distribution or using glass).


Agreed with you 100% - I also hate the nonstandard window GUI interface elements (tabs in the title bar, fuck outta here!) and the really horrific preferences pane. Chrome is a dumpster fire.


I like Chrome for Javascript development/debugging, but I don't use it for anything else.


Use Vivaldi instead.


Why not Firefox?


or Brave (for debugging only)


I use iridium.


my #1 UI hate is single click in omnibar selects all. WTF


I hate how they have this "Hold Command-Q to quit.' FUCK that.


Can someone fix this? WHERE'S DANG, he's sniffing around all the time. It has to be one line of CSS.


> Can someone fix this?

There is nothing to fix: code blocks do (almost) exactly the right thing for code. (the indentation on the right is unnecessary and counterproductive, though, but that's not the main source of the complaint here.)

They are horrible for quotes, especially on mobile, but that's not what they are for. Admittedly, quotes are vastly more common than code on HN and HN could use a good quote formatting mechanism, but that's a missing feature, not a bug in code formatting.


Even just formatting > as <blockquote> would be a good change.


> It has to be one line of CSS.

Yes, but that one line is very long and nobody knows how it ends.


Why would they fix something that's not a bug?

Prepending a line with two spaces is not intended for quoting people. It is intended for posting code in a comment.

If you're quoting someone, stick to the well-established standard of prepending with a > symbol.


Should only be one line, I didn't see the problem this time around because I had installed this plugin the other day.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21020162

https://github.com/corollari/fixedHackerNews/blob/master/ext...


This isn't a solution. There's no need to code block quote to begin with.


There is no built-in quote formatting, so code blocking is basically the only way to have it show different. Attribution is important to some, and a proper quote format would help with that.


I don't think there's any formatting that is better than simply prepending quotes with a ">".

Formatting may improve such quotes that already begin with ">", but the problem is that people come up with their own inferior solutions instead of simply using ">". For example, some people try to use italics which are hard to see, hard to distinguish as quotes, and don't even render as italic on some of the HN native apps I've used.

If ">" was good enough for decades of email and usergroups, it's good enough for HN. No, your quotes in this one post doesn't need anything different or special.

What HN needs is a simple formatting-help blurb when writing a post to set people straight once and for all like reddit (or res?) had/has. The first line of it, if I wrote it, would be "Prepend > for quotes, prepend four spaces to format code."


Interesting there was a small Help link[0] next to the text areas for a quick minute, but they have since been removed. This was definitely there in the past month.

dang, was that something you were testing?

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc


  white-space: pre-wrap;


Montreal’s subway is phenomenal.


This is hilarious to me, how this site is so badly laid out and has so many rendering bugs.


It's not a bug, it's a feature.

Prepending 4 spaces is intended to be used for posting source code, where automatic line wrapping is undesirable.


I mean you could just render it differently on mobile, or at least not with such a tiny bounding box. Its not impossible.


Note: on HN, just two spaces marks off code.


What's your email address? Would like to reach out.


Yeah feel free simplecomplexhn@protonmail.com


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