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Maybe reaching for an analogy would be helpful here.

Thot_experiment is saying that his 2016 Toyota Prius is a great and reliable car for his daily commute and running errands.

Whereas everyone is screeching about its capability gap with a Lockheed Martin F35 lightning.


Yeah, thanks, though I think local models are at least a Cessna, which while being nothing like an F-35 can fly.

whats wrong with datacenters?

nothing, didn't you read what he wrote? he's advocating to build more of them.

I find it really really slow compared to gpt/Claude

Kimi is my favorite of the Chinese models.

I found it much more consistent than glm or minimax


Read some Foucauld. power is internalised.

People absorb the norms of their social class and start policing themselves and others without needing orders or hierarchical power dynamics.

Norm enforcement can spread faster and further than formal authority because lots of people can act on a signal whilst thinking they drew their own conclusions. Think of steve bannon's quote "politics is downstream of culture".

formal rank of the speaker is less important than that the signal comes from the socially legitimate tribe whose approval, language, and standard the subject is a member.


> Think of steve bannon's quote "politics is downstream of culture".

I'm going to be honest: if you think Steve Bannon is a thought leader, I don't think we'd agree on pretty much anything.

> formal rank of the speaker is less important than that the signal comes from the socially legitimate tribe whose approval, language, and standard the subject is a member.

You're claiming that a random stranger on an internet forum has as much social power as the literal monarch of a country. That's absurd, no matter how much fancy language you use to try to justify it.


You aren't allowed to automate law enforcement because of disparate impact


Right, because human enforcement isn’t selective or biased at all


You can at least question an officer in court. Automated stuff is incapable of testifying - which is why traffic camera "tickets" are not enforceable in every state.

Facial recognition performs so poorly on non-white people that you'd have to find the most racist officer saying "they all look the same to me" to get that degree of defectivity.


> You can at least question an officer in court. Automated stuff is incapable of testifying - which is why traffic camera "tickets" are not enforceable in every state.

That's besides the point, you don't need to question a picture with accompanying information (such as location, detected speed).

> Facial recognition performs so poorly on non-white people

You don't need facial recognition. Car with plate XYZ (trivial character recognition) ran a red light, $1000 fine with associated picture proof of the crime sent to the owner of the car as registered in their locality. Done.


“Not sure who was driving”

Most of those red light tickets you’d be surprised but city subreddit advice will be like “ignore it, don’t even look up the ticket number because that acknowledged you received the ticket.” They only mail it to you via regular mail. They have no clue if it actually got to you.


> “Not sure who was driving”

Doesn't matter, fine the owner and let them deal with the driver.


> You can at least question an officer in court.

This is true in theory but not so much in practice. The American legal system only works for people with enough time and/or money to pursue justice (or whatever else they want from the legal system). Like traffic tickets on a road trip - very few people can actually go back to fight them.

Facial recognition is irrelevant if the liability is on whomever the vehicle is registered to.


Sorry but there is no chance you get a good faith reply


> Iran can actually sanction us

Who's us?

> This is what real sanctions look like

You mean raising the price of oil and gas for the worlds largest producer of both oil and gas?

> attacked like terrorists

Attacked the country who took 'protection money' and used it to build up enough conventional munitions to make stopping their program prohibitively costly.


> victim of foreign aggression

Excuse us of being unsympathetic to the greatest state sponser of terrorism in history.

The Muslim country all other Muslim countries love to hate.

The only real theocracy left in the world.

Wannabe North Korea.

The country that killed 30,000 progressive protestors in a few days.


Nothing of what you said (all wrong, btw) is relevant to the fact we attacked first and getting our butts kicked.

"The country that killed 30,000 progressive protestors in a few days."

Ya, if you believe this you're poorly informed. Where does this number come from? Who sourced it? What is their relationship to Western powers? How are they able to count so many Iranians dying in dungeons so well? How about the logistics of killing 30 000 people?

BS American propaganda. Kuwaiti babies redux.

Iranian progressives have one thing that unites them: they remember that the CIA deposed the only democratically elected, progressive, president and installed a brutally repressive "Shah". [1]

"The only real theocracy left in the world."

That would have to include Israel, an apartheid state along religious lines where the Chief Rabbinate decides who can get married.

"the greatest state sponsor of terrorism in history."

Not according to the State Department; Iran and proxies don't crack the top 10. Sunnis (ISIS, Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood, etc) loath Shia and are not coordinated by Iran.

"The Muslim country all other Muslim countries love to hate."

Nope, only Sunni Gulf states hate Iran. Mostly because their rulers are colonial mandarins; the best example is Bahrain, a majority Shia population ruled by foreign Sunni elite installed by the UK 100 years ago. The native Bahrainis loath their rulers.

"Wannabe North Korea."

Say what you will about N. Korea, it isn't getting attacked though.

[1] Shah in quotes because, as a monarchist myself, the deposed, CIA installed, Pahvali was the son of a deposed peasant and the father of a traitor (something, to be fair, the other two Pahlavis weren't).


> getting our butts kicked.

We live in completely different realities.

>Where does this number come from?

The Iranian Ministry of Health lol

> logistics of killing 30,000 people?

Guns

> apartheid state

Arab citizens of Israel have full rights. Unless you deny Palestinian statehood.

> Chief Rabbinate decides who can get married.

Only if Jewish.

> Don't crack the top ten

"Currently there are four countries designated under these authorities: Cuba, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North Korea), Iran, and Syria."

https://www.state.gov/state-sponsors-of-terrorism

Syria and cuba should no longer count as they've collapsed

Nope all Sunni dislike them


This isn't the place for that


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