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off-topic: I used to love HN. Now HN is dead to me.


I'm sorry to hear that. What went wrong?


Users should not have to identify themselves regardless of the service being paid or free. Because stopping spam and bots is possible without requiring the user to provide an email or a phone number.

Nobody cares about anything.


How do you purpose Netflix, Salseforce, etc. charge their clients if they don’t even know who their clients are?

Please don’t say crypto.


How do you propose password resets work without an email address or phone number?


Could use Sign In With Ethereum using a social recovery wallet but I don't think all the pieces are ready yet.


One is the same option you used to signup for HackerNews: a new username. Not a pre-existing email or a pre-existing phone number.


I thought that an e-mail was asked also on HN, maybe it is optional?


If it were only email I could use software that blocks spam email. But there's no way I know of that can block spam phone calls. And I, at least, get spam phone calls.

Signing up on donotcall.gov doesn't help. There's always some checkbox in some terms of service somewhere that grant people the right to contact me that I don't know about.

But the biggest reason I don't want to give my phone number is I want to not feel the way being required to give my phone number makes me feel. I feel like a tracked inmate.

Right back at you: why do you need a phone number from a user? Why do you need anything from a user? What problem are you trying to solve that cannot be solved in any other way except by asking for people's phone number?


I should also say I'm sick of online services accepting only a trackable token as a verification mechanism. There's a simple way to not need this. And it's probably because it's so simple that it isn't used, because online services want to track people.

It should be possible to be a human being without owning an email address or a phone number and today in the USA this isn't possible.



> Theres no way you can conceive of truly amazing software yourself, unless you are linus torvalds

False, in two ways. Truly amazing software do get conceived by an individual. Linux has many flaws.


Yes it does get written, but if you are asking how to do it, instead of proactively trying, you probably cant do it on your own. 98% of developers cant


> There's no way to provide access to the social graph in a privacy preserving way.

Multiparty secure computation is one possible way. There are a few, emerging implementations.


Thanks. Doesn't create account without invite code.


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