>That means statements like “black people are monkeys” and “Koreans are the scum of the earth” are subject to removal. But then, so is “men are trash.”

>See the problem? If you remove dehumanizing attacks against gender, you may block speech designed to draw attention to a social movement like #MeToo. If you allow dehumanizing attacks against gender, well, you’re allowing dehumanizing attacks against gender. And if you do that, how do you defend other “protected” groups from similar attacks?

I'm not sure if the author is taking a pretty objective approach to the problem and therefore considering all possibilities, or if they really unironically believe what's stated in the second paragraph, but in any case, especially the latter, I am shocked about this line of thinking.

The dissonance between how you would like to treat men, and how you would like to treat women and how you believe all genders should be treated the same versus the second paragraph should be the end of the argument.

The fact that a conversation like this even takes place is absurd. It's lawyering a way apply restrictions on one group while making another group exempt from the rule. The motivations are clear, how can a company even entertain these ideas, let alone implement them.

As an aside, at what point do we stop an interesting discussion due to a limit of studies or data.

If something hasn't been measured, or hasn't been measured since 2016, can we really just give in.

If the question is about media being sympathetic, in recent years, toward the oppression that every black person in the u.s. experiences every day. Does data from the 90s really trump no data at all? Isn't the question about recent times for which nobody might have evidence for ordering either case.

And if there is no study, can a sound and valid argument still be made.

In general I agree with the sentiment of your comments. I’m not one to dismiss a person’s opinion posted on an internet discussion site due to lack of cited studies. No one can provide studies to back up their views in every instance.

In the context we are talking about media perceptions. One person presents a study that provides an opposite conclusion to another person’s view. That study is 4 years old. Things may have changed in the intervening 4 years and arguments that they have are welcome.

You are really on the offensive here. The concerns you've raised here remind me of a time when I let news and social media pull me into that disgusting culture war on oppression, equality, collectivism, and individuality.

I still have my stance but I've found that people that get sucked in, on both sides, will get hypersensitive about detecting their opposition, and then they project all of the ideas they dislike the most onto the person in real life who exhibits a hint of it.

You might find that you are trying to find things to be angry about. You might feel very strongly that masculinity is toxic but you don't really have any examples in your life except for the two and a half times you got cat called. The "gamers" that hate minorities and women might be on the forefront of your mind, but only because you spend too much time consuming narratives online.

Genuinely how many people would be concerned about toxic masculinity if the internet didn't exist. How many people would be concerned about the culture war at all if outrage couldn't be shared.

As much as you might like to blame it on a particular skin color or gender, your happiness and peace of mind is your responsibility. If you are frustrated, angry, or sad about gamers, the gamers aren't the problem, you are losing control of your mind.

The criticism is something like Twitter enables the worst in humans, it's a platform that can unjustly destroy one's character and career. From a product perspective, its working. Yet it is still a net negative, at least that's the claim.

When someone is being doxxed, and mobs are forming, it's usually happening on that platform.

You are also able to come out of it with a different perspective you'd never otherwise gain due to up and down voting being missing.

A merit of 4chan is that you get exposed to content you don't like.

It may be a malware vector, but if it's tied to the service, you should not use the service and demand the ads be fixed before you will remove the ad blocker.

In other words you use the service when you are satisfied with it's cost, instead of using the service and then negotiating the transaction posthoc.

I think you are experiencing the same gene pool concerns a racist would experience.

In the end the only thing one can really do it have your own kids.

It is happening across all “races” and cultures.

Humans have always had to stay home/work in order to take care of kids. In my opinion every person is born with instinct to be useful and fullfil some purpose beyond hedonism.

Is it hedonistic to be happy, to live a truly joyful life that you decided and not someone else?

I'm rather questioning the value system we have. It's better to be true to yourself than to invest in a false value system.

What defines a _useful_ purpose?

If you mean protecting what is worth protecting, such as our children, animals, biodiversity, planet then I would agree.

If it means researching and learning things about science, the universe or making art, I would also agree.

If it means owning items for the sake of it, if it means getting a promotion at the expense of who you truly are or want to be. If it means manufacturing more useless technology just for the sake of making money. If it means keeping up with the Joneses, focusing on increasing wealth. Then I would strongly disagree.

But this is just my personal value system, everyone else has their own, and each individual should be honestly and intentfully listening to themselves rather than trusting what society values.

Because frankly, the world is completely fucked. We have destroyed the natural world and our environment because people want fast cars, 3 iPads, a new mobile phone every year, a zucchini wrapped in plastic, a business short business flight to London every 2 weeks and the American Dream.

If nobody thought like this you wouldn't have people building sky scrapers and collecting garbage in the winter

Do you think the person you replied to would really think their world view is based off the two paths you've listed? Also deferring to a video game for philosophical discussion....