Yes, and also pushed for by the Israeli and US governments. Tech investment is part of the Abraham Accords - i.e this is part of the prerequisites for normalization of ties with Israel.
> Renewables, particularly wind and solar, are the path forward
You missed the asterisk where endless dependence on coal, gas or oil is a non-optional requirement.
Who the hell cares if nuclear is expensive to get going? Plenty of things cost a lot - healthcare, social spending, roads, all of it. Those war machines that exist to prop up the fossil fuel industry cost a pretty penny as well. It's only when we get to nuclear that the talking point becomes cost. If governments don't even want to provide energy independence then perhaps they should end the slavery they call income tax.
> The only things that ever comes up in elections about energy is the price.
Yeah, because solar and wind are both expensive and unreliable, and fossil fuels are both expensive and destructive. The point is that the price isn't worth it.
> There is still no long time storage for the nuclear waste.
This is a non-argument, just like it was last year.
> And even if we ignore that. People are worried about drones flying over airports. Wait when drones fly over nuclear power plants.
2026, new argument dropped. Almost as much of a non-argument as the one above.
> Talking about energy independence, what do you think where the nuclear fuel comes from?
> BTW if you don’t want to pay the membership fee of a country aka taxes, you’re free to leave
The membership fee isn't giving up your money, the membership fee is participating in improving the country. It's this backwards ethos that has most European countries in the toilet.
Ah yes, the sun shines at night and wind comes from trees. If you can name a country using solar and wind that isn't dependent on fossil fuels I'd love to hear about it.
I see. You make a claim, and your argument is "you haven't proved me wrong". Classic crank behavior.
You then back it up with the transparently nonsensical argument that "the sun doesn't shine at night." Batteries exist, you know.
You made the claim renewables require indefinite use of fossil fuels, you show your reasoning. An argument that ignores the existence of storage is not an argument, it's insulting verbal vomit.
No, batteries do not exist. Just like solar technology wasn't developed to a point where it was barely useful until relatively recently, battery technology is no where near what is required for any national grid. That's why there is a fundamental dependence on fossil fuels, and why there isn't a single country who can depend on wind or solar. Because there is no way to store that energy.
The only countries with a successful secondary fallback are those who use geothermal or hydro, with the latter being opposed by the same environmentalists who oppose nuclear. Not every country has geothermal energy, nor do most countries have hydro, and most of the countries with either of those don't have enough to power their grid. The only ones that do have no real manufacturing. The issue is front and center: the ones that need it the most are the ones who are unable to utilize it.
In the interim, until meaningful storage exists, it's the 'environmentalist' anti-nuclear crowd who have plunged the world into chaos and contributed to endless destruction of the planet. The world is still using fossil fuels because the world has no alternative other than nuclear.
There needs to be a stepping stone - and that stepping stone is nuclear. Until then, the stepping stone is oil, coal and gas. Which means Middle Eastern wars, environmental destruction and fracking. Dealing with whatever fallout that comes from nuclear, with room for those who can't support nuclear to use fossil fuels, while the rest of the world figures out a real way forward on how to collect and store solar and wind is the only path forward.
The icons in the menu bars are rough, the spacing isn’t great and the inconsistent window borders aren’t great.
I’m not that opinionated though - I don’t really care that much. But the part that sucked was installing it on a 2020 intel MacBook Pro. It basically made it unusable to the point of being ready to throw it out. Going back from Tahoe breathed so much life into it that it was fairly upsetting to see Apple release it. It reminded me of early iPhone updates that would basically brick older devices due to the performance impact.
To be fair MacOS (and all apple software) is so heavily optimized for their current hardware. It is unfortunate that Intel macs are left behind, but my 2019 intel mac was capital-S Struggling with macos already in 2022. The M-series was such a leap forward. It’s a server under my desk now.
Given that the 'tide pod challenge' was before TikTok's time and took place on wholly US-owned platforms like YouTube, we can safely assume it's all in your head. Most of the other stuff you're sharing sounds like a reflection of what you find out in the streets of any major US city. Perhaps you should question if your government is the one that is attacking you.
At a very high level, think fruit sorting[0] where the conveyor belt doesn't stop rolling and you need to rapidly respond, and all the way through to monitoring for things like defects in silicon wafers and root causing it. Some of these issues aren't problematic on their own, but you can aggregate data over time to see if a particular machine, material or process within a factory is degrading over time. This might not be throughout the entire factory but isolated to a particular batch of material or a particular subsection within it. This is not a hypothetical example: this is an active use case.
But that's not something you'd use an LLM for. There have been computer vision systems sorting bad peas for more than a decade[0], of course there are plenty of use cases for very fast inspection systems. But when would you use an LLM for anything like that?
Nobody said you would use an LLM for that. It's an example of a process where "industrial inspection, in particular, [would] benefit from lower latency in exchange for accuracy".
The point of their comment isn't that you would use an LLM to sort fruit. It was just an illustrative example.
The discussion was about fine-tuned Qwen models, not industrial inspection in general. I would also find it interesting to learn about what kind of edge AI industrial inspection task you could do with fine-tuned llms, not some handwavy answer about how sometimes latency is important in real time systems. Of course it is, so generally you don't use models with several billion parameters unless you need to.
> No, we are literally trying to find a use case where using a lower accuracy LLM makes sense for a vision task.
They're reconfigurable on the fly with little technical expertise and without training data, that's really useful. Personally in projects for people I've found models have fewer unusual edge cases than traditional models, are less sensitive to minor changes in input and are easier to debug by asking them what they can see.
Seems like a way to use a sledgehammer to hammer in screws, and inviting nondeterminism in important systems. Besides being way larger and more complex than what most specialized industrial processes need, they are also vulnerable to adversarial attacks.
> Seems like a way to use a sledgehammer to hammer in screws
The lazy analogy the other way is that developing a custom system to do these jobs is like hiring a team of experts to spend 2 years designing the perfect crosshead screwdriver that fits exactly one screw (and doesn't work if the screw starts slightly rotated) when you have a flathead one right next to you that'll work and it'll work right now.
> and inviting nondeterminism in important systems.
Traditional ML is just as non-deterministic.
> they are also vulnerable to adversarial attacks.
Typically not relevant in these kinds of cases but also this is easily a problem in many traditional ML algos.
A flathead screwdriver is not a valid analogy, because LLMs are big complicated and opaque machines. And while other ML methods are non-deterministic as well, gaussian process, decision trees or even CNNs are easier to try to make sense of than these huge black boxes.
And I still haven't seen a single example of anyone actually using a finetuned Qwen in industrial inspection, which leads me to believe than nobody is actually using it for that, but some people want to use it because it's their new favorite toy. You don't need a VLM to count cells in microscopy images, or find scratches in painted parts, or estimate output from a log in a saw mill. I can see the use case for things like describing a scene from a surveillance camera, finding a car of a certain model and colour, or other tasks that demand more reasoning or description. But in those cases latency is not super important compared to getting the right output, which was the tradeoff discussed from the start of this thread.
The last thing I'd want to deal with is to have a computer say something like "You're absolutely right, it was wrong of me to classify the metal debris as food".
I’ve used multimodal LLMs for this sort of task and if a fine tuned model would get reasonable performance compared to frontier models I’d use that. Running things purely locally lets you massively simplify the overall architecture and data transfer requirements of some of these tasks if nothing else and lower latency means you can report problems much faster (vs transfer images off device, batch process).
> The last thing I'd want to deal with is to have a computer say something like "You're absolutely right, it was wrong of me to classify the metal debris as food".
The cnn will do that potentially more often and it can be because it’s just not seen enough examples of the debris at that angle or something else equally irrelevant to a human.
But why would I want to results to be done faster but less reliable, vs slower and more reliable? Feels like the sort of thing you'd favor accuracy over speed, otherwise you're just degrading the quality control?
It's not that you want it to be faster, but you want the latency to be predictable and reliable, which is much more the case for local inference than sending it away over a network (and especially to the current set of frontier model providers who don't exactly have standout reliability numbers).
> which is much more the case for local inference than sending it away over a network
Of course, but that isn't what unclear here.
What's unclear is why a 7b LLM model would be better for those things than say a 14b model, as the difference will be minuscule, yet parent somehow made the claim they make more sense for verification because somehow latency is more important than accuracy.
In the hypothetical fruit sorting example, if you have a hard budget of 10 msec to respond and the 7B takes 8 msec and the 14B takes 12msec, there is your imaginary answer. Regular engineering where you have to balance competing constraints instead of running the biggest available.
Hard real time is a thing in some systems.
Also, the current approaches might have 85% accuracy -- if the LLM can deliver 90% accuracy while being "less exact" that's still a win!
....because sometimes people need a faster answer? There's many possible reasons someone might need speed over accuracy. In the food sorting example, if lower accuracy means you waste more peanuts, but the speed means you get rid of more bad peanuts overall, then you get fewer complaints about bad peanuts, with a tiny amount of extra material waste.
It won't. This article misses the almost certain reality that the support of the Gulf states for this conflict (and the others that passed, and those that will follow) came from incentives like having infra investments on their soil.
Divesting away from the Gulf after something as trivial as this would be a complete rug-pull. And it would end the Abraham Accords.
Don't get me wrong: it will happen at some point. But not now. Not until the Abraham Accords have served their purpose.
Iraqis also see themselves as a continuation of Mesopotamian people, that was quite literally what Iraqi Baathist thought was centered around and used as the successful unification strategy. That's quite literally the justification the Baathists used to try 'reclaim' both Khuzestan and Kuwait. You quite literally couldn't be more wrong in how you categorize Baathist Iraq.
Iran has a much worse relationship with its minorities, where if you are of the wrong faith then you literally face state-sanctioned laws preventing you studying or working. In fact, things in Iraq became much worse for minorities after the overthrowal due to the adoption of Iranian cultural practices like Abrahamic elitism.
The cherry on top of all of this is that you probably don't realize that Persians in Iran only make up 60% of the country. You have Iranians who wholly reject Persian ancestry (Azeris, Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds...) but you don't even account for them, despite Iran having, what, three? entirely separate ethnic-based separatist insurgencies active across the country LOL
> That's quite literally the justification the Baathists used to try 'reclaim' both Khuzestan and Kuwait. You quite literally couldn't be more wrong in how you categorize Baathist Iraq.
Baathism is literally pan-arabism! Arabism as in Arab. Do you really think that making pan-arabism movement under the sauce of Babylonian legacy is going to work on Kurds and others? Of course not. Same applies to Syria that had their own flavor of pan-arabist party that kept Asad in power. Only recently, after the summer 2025 war with Israel Islamic Republic tried to connect itself to its Persian past, but of course it is too late for that.
> Iran has a much worse relationship with its minorities, where if you are of the wrong faith then you literally face state-sanctioned laws preventing you studying or working.
I am not sure how the practices of the Islamic Republic related to the current mood of the Iranians that oppose it.
> In fact, things in Iraq became much worse for minorities after the overthrowal due to the adoption of Iranian cultural practices like Abrahamic elitism.
You mean that Islamic Republic exported its own flawed ideology on the neighboring states through funding of various non-state actors? Wow.
> The cherry on top of all of this is that you probably don't realize that Persians in Iran only make up 60% of the country. You have Iranians who wholly reject Persian ancestry (Azeris, Armenians, Assyrians, Kurds...) but you don't even account for them, despite Iran having, what, three? entirely separate ethnic-based separatist insurgencies active across the country LOL
I think you conflate anti-regime insurgency vs. anti-persian one.
There's only one country that has repeatedly attacked its neighbors and has decided to occupy and seize land from two of them while actively calling for and carrying out strikes in many others all in the last two years.
Iran effectively controlled Lebanon, Yemen, Syria and Iraq through its proxies and puppet regimes. Right, it didn't annex territory, but it complete subjugated these countries and their population to their goals.
Nothing racist or exaggerated in Hizbollah in Lebanon having far more military power than the country itself, and taking orders directly from the Iranians, dragging Lebanon into a war it never asked for.
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