“Some people think we're getting too many transplants and that regulating the development of new housing will somewhat curb that”
The “transplants” he is concerned with are those with both the means and legal standing to purchase and drive up demand for new homes. How many illegal immigrants to California fall into that category? So most of the “transplants” that are relevant to this discussion are coming from other US states.
> How many illegal immigrants to California fall into that category? So most of the “transplants” that are relevant to this discussion are coming from other US states.
Why in this thread do you keep making the mistake of thinking migration consists only of domestic migration and illegal immigration? You know that legal international migration (both immigration directed at permanent residency and more transient legal residency by foreigners) is a thing, right, and actually quite a big one in Californiaz right?
Well, when it comes to demand for property owenrship, you don't actually have to be resident; wealthy Chinese do a lot of that without ever living in the place where they are driving up prices.
But certainly a sizable share of the foreigners migrating into California have substantial means (either pre-migration assets and/or post-pubescent income) and China isn't exactly underrepresented among the sources of such migration.
So now you’re actually arguing that the vast majority of international immigration to California is not poor people from Mexico, but rather wealthy Chinese buying up homes?
Any data to back up this claim or are you just arguing to argue at this point? There are many news outlets that would love to see your data on this, because it is a startling revelation indeed.
Edit: to those downvoting this, please provide data corroborating his claim above. Otherwise there is nothing to downvote, as I am simply calling into question his claim that wealthy, legal Chinese immigrants outnumber poor illegal immigrants from Mexico in California.
> So now you’re actually arguing that the vast majority of international immigration to California is not poor people from Mexico, but rather wealthy Chinese buying up homes?
No, and you can tell they because the only mentioned of the phrase “wealthy Chinese” in my comment refers to people buying up property from abroad, and the phrase.“vadt majority” (or even the word “majority”) doesn't appear in my comment at all.
> Any data to back up this claim
Since I never made the argument you reference, and it's not necessary either to the core issue or the tangent from the main discussion in my comment, why would you ask for that?
> Most of the people I know in the San Francisco bay area who own a home are Chinese immigrants.
He's saying that the majority of immigrants who are buy houses are Chinese. I'm not arguing for or against that by the way. For places where this already took place, Toronto and Victoria Canada.
Yeah but he keeps jumping around to either side of the issue just to argue. Either way, I’m done with it. He can argue with himself now. There’s a reason he has 50,000 karma points - he has lots of time and patience with which to argue.
“From other states” alone, sure, OTOH, California has had net positive total (domestic and international) migration.