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There's really no hope of modernizing USPS. The political cost of substantial investment into USPS is higher than the actual cost of capital. If they want to control the quality of their service, it can't involve USPS.


Can you provide a citation? My understanding is that the USPS is constrained by conservatives trying to break them financially by requiring pension funding requirements drastically beyond what is considered reasonable based on their workforce. Therefore, USPS could modernize when Congress is replaced with politicians not working on dismantling the institution through legislation.

“Back in 2006, Congress imposed a huge and unprecedented mandate requiring that the Postal Service pre-fund future retiree health benefits for the next 75 years and do so within a decade – something no other public agency or private company is required to do.”

“As a direct result of pre-funding, USPS has reached its $15 billion debt limit. In 2005, the Postal Service was debt free. Today, it holds $15 billion in debt – all of it traceable to pre-funding. By forcing the Postal Service to use all of its borrowing capacity making these annual payments, Congress has prevented it from investing in new infrastructure, products and services to better serve American homes and businesses.”

http://www.deliveringforamerica.com/infographic-the-truth-ab...


  In 2005, the Postal Service was debt free. Today, it holds
  $15 billion in debt – all of it traceable to pre-funding.
I'm curious to know more about this.

If I've promised an employee $X of retirement benefits based on years they've already worked, am I "debt free" by the definition of that article, or do I have $X of debt?


The only thing unreasonable is the fact that only USPS is held to properly account for their post retirement benefits, whereas all other government agencies get to make up numbers and lay it on future taxpayers as the debts come due.


Can you expound on your accounting or actuarial experience to show you’re competent to determine what is considered “properly accounting for”?


I worked at an actuarial firm for a few years, and passed the exams required to be an associate actuary in the US. However, anyone can claim anything on the internet, and I shouldn't and can't claim to be all knowing about actuarial accounting, but I do think I can claim the following:

1) In order to account for something, you have to be able to measure it. Promising a population healthcare until they die requires you to know how much healthcare they will need and how much healthcare will cost, and since this is until they die, you need to know these numbers 30 to 70 years into the future.

I don't think anyone is capable of seeing that far into the future with any kind of reasonable certainty, especially not with healthcare. Therefore, it can't even be possible to "properly" account for this kind of promise, and consider the fact that pretty much every other non taxpayer funded organization has slashed and removed post retirement obligations due to skyrocketing healthcare costs and the inability to fund them.

2) According to the text of the legislation

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/hr6407/text

Sec. 8909a. Postal Service Retiree Health Benefit Fund

The law requires funding of accrued benefits. I don't think it's unreasonable to require someone to set aside funds for something that has already been promised. In fact, I think the opposite is ridiculous, which is the way most government agencies work, and the USPS has worked with their pay as you go nonsense:

https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/financials/annual-reports/...

Basically, "pay" someone whatever you want now, and then actually pay for it later by raising taxes is what that means to me. I also consider it buying votes from the union members without having to increase current taxes. However, the fact that this type of law only went into effect for USPS does make me think some lobbyist of Fedex/UPS did a fantastic job.

3) The hundreds of billions of dollars of unfunded healthcare and defined benefit pensions from governments are evidence enough that whatever is going on in the benefit accounting world is not right. I know from sitting in on meetings that the people smart enough to calculate the liabilities aren't actually on the board, that's usually reserved for the uneducated policeman or firefighters and city council members who are exchanging union votes for benefits. Then they tell the actuarial what % return on investment to use to make the liabilities look smaller. Then the actuary puts a little notice in their report that says they don't agree with the unreasonable 8% return on investment assumption, but what difference does that make?

Also, in the pension consulting world, having funding for only 80% of the accrued liabilities is considered "fully funded". That is laughable. Look up what your city/county/state's funding ratios are.

In general, I simply point out the fact that no one can predict, with any reasonable accuracy, that far out into the future for something so complicated (lifespans, healthcare, investment returns, etc), so you can't really account for the liabilities in the first place. And from the fact that pretty much every single defined benefit pension that private organizations offered is no longer offered (due to strict funding requirements from ERISA and PPA laws, conveniently exempting taxpayer funded organizations), and the taxpayer funded ones that are very underfunded, you can surmise that the whole thing doesn't work. Too much money at play, too many ephemeral decision makers at the table who can pass the buck and reap the rewards, which all adds up to too much agency risk. Which, funnily enough, is never taken into account with these long term obligations.

How does this effect you in day to day life? Enjoy the deteriorating subway service, school systems, roadways, water quality, air quality, etc. as all that increased tax money goes towards these unfunded benefits for retired people.


Excellent rebuttal, which I appreciate greatly. It’s a hard problem to solve.


Citation needed that conservatives killed USPS. I didn't find any unbiased sources to confirm this. To the contrary, the 2006 bill was a bipartisan measure passed by voice vote in the House and unanimous consent in the Senate.[1]

[1] https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/109/hr6407


Republicans held majorities in both the Senate and the House, the bill was signed by a George W Bush.


While that's true, it doesn't appear to have been a partisan or even controversial bill at the time, so I feel that it's disingenuous to blame Republicans.


If you control the majority of a legislative body, I argue it’s reasonable to blame that party for legislation they pass (as they could just as easily not pass it with the control they have). Likewise, the Republican President could have vetoed it (which he did not do).

Also, the legislation was sponsored by a Republican (Thomas “Tom” Davis III Sponsor. Representative for Virginia's 11th congressional district).


And the other party, which came into power just two years later also "could just as easily" have repealed it. So you must blame the other party as well in this case.


> when Congress is replaced with politicians not working on dismantling the institution

So basically never?


i've been there 8+ years, involved in all corners of this org and i don't like being a negative nancy but i agree on many many levels




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