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I drive a newer car (2018 Camaro SS 1LE) and only Apple and I know what music I listen to. Even without disabling OnStar.

Rather than living with an older car, I think we should tackle issues like this head-on, since they're not going away. Legislation, or just making a shitstorm for the manufacturer, stuff like that.

In this case didn't GM specifically ask people to opt-in anyway? As long as it's overt, and not in some fine print somewhere, I don't think it's that big a deal.



One could see driving an older car as a opt-out, and boycott. As fewer cars sell, the company to first realize the problem and the market stands to windfall. All this tracking is why I can't stomach the tesla fanboying on HN, we should know better than to celebrate 3rd party control of your car.


That seems unrealistic, though. People who buy cars based strictly on practicality just get something newer when their old one starts to be a hassle. They're not going to be too interested in buying something else older just to send a message to the manufacturer.

Another case where the masses just don't really care that much and those of us who do get to pay the price. And ... while I say that, I admit I haven't disabled the OnStar on my Camaro. Buddy of mine with exactly the same car did but he's a bit more paranoid than I am, and the monthly "how shitty of a driver are you" message from OnStar creeped him out. Whereas it just made me want to try harder to make the score lower (it's like golf, yes?? ;-)). Now, if they start sending the data to my insurance company, then I'm yanking out the LTE immediately.


Most 2017 and newer Toyota and Lexus vehicles have Verizon 4G cellular embedded inside. It doesn’t have a monthly fee. The Corolla and the Tacoma are one of the only ones at the moment that don’t include a DCM and don’t have embedded cellular. They just piggyback off your phone’s cellular connection.




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