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The worst part is humans only want a small fraction of the mountain, so the whole thing is chewed up and spat out into the land around the mountain. It would be a little better if we actually had a use for the whole mountain.

The tar sands come to mind. The entire forest above the sands is literally scraped off the face of the earth, the sands removed, the oil removed from the sands, and then everything aside from the oil is left behind in huge swaths of desolate waste.



Odd wording to describe a replanted forest as "desolate waste". If anything one may suspect you are not being fully honest to leave out the "then they spent millions to try and return to the forest to its original state."


When Alberta’s oil sands industry marked its 40th anniversary in 2007, one statistic stood out among the many that measure economic success and environmental impact: Not a single acre of mined land had been certified as being “reclaimed” to government standards.

Lee Foote, a University of Alberta wetlands ecologist who has worked with the tar sands industry and advised the Alberta government on wetland reclamation policies, agrees that reclamation has so far been done more for public show than to create viable ecosystems.

“The mindset is to throw big dollars at engineering designer wetlands that are green but not nearly as functional as what was there in the past,” says Foote. “The main aim is to get the social license that is needed for these companies to continue operating.”

-- https://e360.yale.edu/features/on_ravaged_tar_sands_lands_bi...


Same kabuki happens with developers & timber vs salmon fisheries.

One county in my state even bothers with monitoring, enforcement. Not a single issued citation (fine) was ever collected (during the study period).

Maddening.


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Ah, so you were aware that the forests are replanted. You choose instead not to provide others with this information or inform that, but rather to editorialize. Now someone has asked you to justify how a replanted green forest is "desolate". Please keep on topic, we are talking about the tar sands not pal oil. Yes I know both have oil in the name but please understand they are not the same oil. Please for your own safety do not drink the tar sands.

Now back to your statement. Do you retract your claim of desolation? Or can you provide any evidence to support your position. Please do not reference palm oil in relation to the tar sands. No palm trees grow in Fort Mac.


Did you look at the usernames? Different users.


First: No, I'm pretty sure that Danieru was not trolling.

Second, HN guidelines say that one should not accuse someone else of trolling. It almost never leads to a decent discussion.




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