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> Cryptocurrencies is about divorcing money and state. Seems pretty clear to me.

No, they don't. There is no technological or cryptographic answer to the state's monopoly on legitimate force, its duty to execute the law, or any of its other functions that create and maintain the business environment.

It occurs to me that much of what crypto-lovers want is actually radically undemocratic. Vestigial states that can't do the bidding of the electorate because they're unable to hold companies to account and so on. People of this inclination are the death throes of the globalist dream: it is a fine thing indeed that the nation state looks to be reasserting itself in the face of one of California's more embarrassing wet dreams.



If you rob the state of its monopoly over money, it's ability to exert force is greatly diminished.


Except the state can exert force to protect its monopoly over money.


>It occurs to me that much of what crypto-lovers want is actually radically undemocratic.

It's just the latest iteration of the libertarian fallacy, embodied in code - that a market can exist without a governing body to make sure it doesn't get sold.


Basically whenever you create a vacuum of power, it gets filled eventually by a few individual actors - i.e. Bitcoin miners being predominantly Chinese at this point.


And what exactly are they able to do?

People love to talk about how many miners are in China without mentioning that they really can't do much, even if they get over 51%.


Exactly. I used to work for financial traders, so I got to see some highly effective markets up close. Those markets were heavily regulated. Not just by governments, who were from my perspective almost irrelevant, but by the exchanges themselves.

I think markets are amazing, and have a lot of sympathy for the more thoughtful sort of libertarian and their concerns about state power. But there's what I think of as fundamentalist libertarians, who seem to worship an abstract idea of "market" that has very little to do with my real-life experience of markets, financial or otherwise.


For anyone interested in this extremely important point (that markets need a lot more than just enforcing contracts to work), two book recommendations:

* Rob Reich, _Saving Capitalism_ [1]

* Steven K Vogel, _Marketcraft_ [2]

What kinds of contracts can be enforced? How much personal liability people should have? Is bankruptcy allowed? and so on. All trade-offs between different groups, and there’s no one “free market” answer to any of them.

[1] https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/227780/saving-capit...

[2] https://global.oup.com/academic/product/marketcraft-97801906...




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