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Check out Nobel if you want to watch another Norwegian political thriller with a focus on the interplay between energy resources and international relations- this time about a Norwegian guy who comes home from Afganistan only to become a pawn for international politics



It is russophobic.

The idea of Russia invading Norway to resume Norwegian oil production because the EU asked it is absurd.

Were it to happen in real life, Russia would be applauding Norway for rising the oil price and ramping up its own oil production as much as it can.


So you're saying that a fictional show is... fictional?


No, saying that it lacks verisimilitude. When fiction’s plot prevents you from suspending disbelief, it makes it hard to take it seriously as a comment on reality.

Magic is fine. People should act the way that people act.


Imagine a movie depicting Jews baking matzos using the blood of christian babies.

Would you reply with the same "So you're saying that a fictional show is... fictional"?


Russia is a state that has occupied at 7/8 European countries in the last century.

Judaism is a somewhat vaguely defined cultural/religious grouping.

In European history the last large scale attempt to blur the distinction between race and state ended with attempted genocide. It's somewhat distasteful to continue repeating that mistake.


Your attempt to justify russophobia is distasteful.

All this nonsense like 'we don't like Russian state but love Russian people" doesn't fool anyone.


I watched the TV series and it was actually remarkably sympathetic towards the Russians involved. The Russian government obviously wasn't very pleased with it, but I doubt the EU were either (it portrays neither state in a good light).

The way America treats Russia (in TV, movies and the media, where it's the bogeyman du jour), on the other hand, is vastly different and arguably quite russophobic.


Well, I must admit I stopped watching it after several episodes, perhaps I should get back to it.


No, that is not what I am saying.


My post was not an endorsement of everything in the show. I agree that the particulars of the scenario make no sense for exactly the reasons you mentioned. I would find some sort of generic EU occupying force much more convincing, but only if they made it clear that Russia was unable to increase oil production or something like that.

I only wanted to highlight the question of whether stopping oil production could lead to war. Sorry, I should have made that clear.


That's a good point, I'm sorry my comment was too agressive


It's realistic. Just ask the Baltic states (invaded, colonized), Finland, Austria, Poland, Czeckoslovakia, Georgia, Ukraine, Afganistan. I'm sure I'm leaving out a few. Or, just compare the German experience to occupation by US/UK/France on the one side and Soviet Union on the other.


The possibility of an invasion of someone isn’t unrealistic by a Russia, but an invasion of Norway specifically not particularly realistic by the Russia of our timeline. For one, Finland and NATO-member Norway would have much stronger backing by the western allies than they did in 1939. For another, nuclear states would have to give up MAD in favor of Mankind Absolutely Rejects Nuclear Explosives.


Not so absurd if a coalition of far right governments come to power in Europe. There are already Italy, Poland, Hungary. Add France/Germany/Spain/Netherlands to the mix and what we get is 100% unpredictable.


Thanks for the recommendation.




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