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Predecessors:

  1. Windows Hello
  2. Steam
  3. Really..? How is Safari more innovative than Tor Browser? You can't argue that Safari was more privacy-respecting than Mozilla pre-Tor.
  4. Windows Phones (I had one, it was more capable and powerful in any way compared to the first iPhone)
  5. Windows tablets
  6. There were tons of MP3/media players of different varieties before the iPod - what makes it so innovative.
The only example I can really come up with is the TouchBar. Even that had predecessors of different types, but they definitely did something new there. Users love it, I heard.


1. Windows Hello

Isn't this just launched, with the feature set nowhere near the idea of securing payments?

2. Steam

AppStore has far more features and way more full featured. From Apps, Games, subscription models, app quality reviews. Also works on mobile.

3. Really..? How is Safari more innovative than Tor Browser? You can't argue that Safari was more privacy-respecting than Mozilla pre-Tor.

The right defaults. It takes a lot of innovation to come up with the set of defaults that are actually secure and protect you. If one thinks they're secure using the Tor browser, they have another thing coming.

4. Windows Phones (I had one, it was more capable and powerful in any way compared to the first iPhone)

Haha! Ubuntu is better Desktop OS than Mac and Windows.

5. Windows tablets

You're kidding right?

6. There were tons of MP3/media players of different varieties before the iPod - what makes it so innovative.

Look at my other reply.


> Isn't this just launched, with the feature set nowhere near the idea of securing payments?

Windows Hello: 2016. FaceID: 2017. And yes, Windows Hello could be used for payments before FaceID: https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2017/01/12/windo...

You seem to have missed the point of the comment you replied to:

> Apple's rarely ever first to the table with any technology. They take what others are doing on a limited scale and ramp it up to the mainstream with a spit-shine.

No one's arguing it's necessary or even desirable to do technological innovation to be successful or market tech products to the masses. New "things" generally need a generation or three until ready for that.

Taking existing facial recognition tech used for authentication in one domain (OS login) and applying it to a new domain (payments) is not innovation in my book. It's just the natural next step.




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