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Apologies for the word largesse - I should probably have edited out the adjectives (which always cause me a problem) more aggressively.

I actually find that even though these applications aren't running pacemakers that they still don't work. It's really easy to write what is in fact bad algorithm for accessing (eg) shoe size data when you are working on rows only as objects.

I cannot speak (and am not) for the Rails ORM but the problem here is less about some library people use but about the primary affordances being "get this object by id, edit it, and save it back". This is just not right IMO and is the underlying cause of the famous "object-relational mismatch". I suppose I come down on the relational side of that in that I think object access is the problem.



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