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>I would say it's a much higher bar to be hired in as a remote worker vs an existing employee moving to being remote because you already whether the employee is productive

I have to disagree - this is a common premise that you have to see that someone is productive "in person" first.

But seriously, it doesn't matter if someone is remote or in-person, you won't know how productive they actually will be until after they have been hired.

FWIW, I am an engineering manager at a fully remote org and we have had great success with hiring people and getting them productive from day 1.



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