What is also funny is that settled immigrants often have more right-wing views about immigration than people born into that society.
This doesn't appear to happen in the US because of the history and the significant levels of illegal immigration today but, where I am, the group most in favour of controls on migration are settled immigrants.
It seems very odd to say limiting immigration is white supremacy. The US has a huge illegal immigration problem, being in favour of immigration is being in favour of controls. There is no realistic alternative (I get why Democracts want more voters...but speaking non-politically).
> What is also funny is that settled immigrants often have more right-wing views about immigration than people born into that society.
> This doesn't appear to happen in the US
Yes, it does. It may happen significantly less in communities where the immigrants, their descendants, and others of their ethnicity are targeted, without selectivity by immigration status, for bigotry, including the highly visible Latino/Latina community (though, even there it still is a recognized and not uncommon phenomenon.)
It definitely happens among White European immigrants.
> It seems very odd to say limiting immigration is white supremacy.
Limiting immigration isn't, inherently, white supremacy.
But the people pushing it hardest in the US are, quite overtly, also pushing White supremacy and courting and excusing White supremacists.
> The US has a huge illegal immigration problem
The United States has had net negative illegal immigration for over decade, and the gross level has been in decline, too. It does not have a “huge illegal immigration problem”. And the illegal immigration problem it does have is in significant part because of stupid features of it's immigration system, like per country caps on top of per category caps, which creates decades long backlogs for legal immigration from countries with large numbers of prospective immigrants meeting individual qualifications, and stupid features of it's domestic policy that intersect with immigration policy, like the war on drugs and the resultant exportation of hardened, long-term US resident gang members to Central America that have contributed to the violence and refugee crises there.
So much of this makes no sense. Immigrants are subject to bigotry everywhere. You are hopefully aware that during the WW2 a rather large number of people died because of this...yes, bigotry still exists in Europe (the US is vastly vastly vastly more tolerant than almost everywhere in Europe, the US was founded by people in Europe escaping bigotry and pogroms...most European nations are hostile to immigrants because they are largely homogeneous societies).
Your last comment is worse. The US has a level of illegal immigration that is unlike anything that has occurred in modern societies (i.e. since nation states formed). That is why it is a problem.
That isn't the fault of the US. If people somewhere else choose to break the law, the solution to that is not to change the law. US Law is made by US citizens (again, the only place in the world where someone would have this debate is the US).
Likewise, the "war on drugs" is a function of domestic policy in other countries...how can you blame the US for not intervening in the domestic policy of Central American countries (given the history of this in the 1980s). Again, thankfully saner heads have prevailed recently and we don't have govts invading other countries on a whim.
Also, in Europe we have people escaping a real war. A govt that is armed with chemical weapons and airplanes bombing the shit out of civilians. There is a high bar for refugee status...there is a reason why. Some people actually need help. Being poor and your country being a bad place to live is true in many places. If more people stayed where they are, and tried to make their countries better...maybe that would help?
When Trump quoted “When the looting starts the shooting starts” he was encouraging lynchings. Look up the history.
Along with numerous, more damning allegations, John Bolton says Trump is encouraging the Chinese to build death camps to house their ethnic minorities.
Boltan is a senior republican. He served in every republican administration since Regan. In fact, he’s also a racist, so it’s pretty clear he’s not some closet lefty plant. According to Wikipedia:
> From 2013 until March 2018, Bolton was chairman of the far-right anti-Muslim Gatestone Institute, which is prominent for disseminating false anti-immigrant and anti-Muslim information.
It’s not like this is the only time a member of Trump’s inner circle has blown a whistle. His former Secretary of Defense compared Trump to the Nazis in writing two weeks ago.
How much evidence will it take for you to pay attention to what Trump has been doing? Every mainstream news outlet consistently (except Fox, they’re inconsistent) runs stories about Trump’s racism and ties to white supremacists.
He purged a large percentage of his administration and the republican house and senate for opposing him.
His political campaign and immediate family regularly use Nazi imagery to support his campaign.
This doesn't appear to happen in the US because of the history and the significant levels of illegal immigration today but, where I am, the group most in favour of controls on migration are settled immigrants.
It seems very odd to say limiting immigration is white supremacy. The US has a huge illegal immigration problem, being in favour of immigration is being in favour of controls. There is no realistic alternative (I get why Democracts want more voters...but speaking non-politically).