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Come on, you guys are in every thread nitpicking tiny tiny things like this, while the alternative is literally incomparably worse, and the only thing you achieve by this is making firefox’s case harder for those who don’t look up your ridiculous claims...

First of all, all of these things can be turned off; second, checking if you are using an outdated, potentially insecure browser is essential - if there is a vulnerability, the least of your problem will be that one goddamn ping to a mozilla domain...



> First of all, all of these things can be turned off;

They cannot. Reporting off, telemetry off, automatic updates off, every related setting in about:config off -- Firefox still transacts data with not one but several Mozilla domains upon launching.

Mozilla can't ethically constantly talk about privacy out of one side of its mouth while collecting data that can be used to track users who have explicitly requested them not to do that out of the other side.


> Mozilla can't ethically constantly talk about privacy out of one side of its mouth while collecting data that can be used to track users who have explicitly requested them not to do that out of the other side.

1. They can if they're an order of magnitude better than everyone else, just like electric car makers can talk about being environmentally friendly despite the fact lithium isn't renewable

2. Are you sure it's tracking? What data is actually sent? Crash reports, update checks, network tests, motd fetching, cache preloading... don't count as "tracking users". Hell, even reporting on statistics (version, OS, platform, region...) isn't actually tracking users, but FF lets you disable that regardless because they know some people don't like it.


Then feel free to look it up in the source code, or even patch it.


If I could afford the time to learn Rust, the frameworks used by Firefox, the associated toolchain, and the Firefox codebase, and the time to maintain a fork, I would love to do that.




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