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>the sacrifices needed to ensure Java compatibility entail many quirks that I find frustrating.

That reminds me of that dead JVM language called Ceylon. It didn't compromise anything to ensure Java compatibility. The combination of OOP+FP was executed with zero friction. Meanwhile Scala did it so poorly it created a stupid myth that OOP and FP shouldn't mix.

Of course everyone knows that nobody used Ceylon, not even Redhat who sponsored the language. The compiler was also dog slow. Typechecking complicated type unions/intersections can get really slow with bigger projects. The metamodel also created a lot of JS bloat if you were brave enough to use it in the browser. Lots of practical complaints that ultimately make you stop using it. But oh man the idea and design. It was very well thought out and enjoyable to program in.



Ceylon was (is?) really beautiful. At least type unions/intersections found their way into Typescript.

IMO Gavin's biggest mistake was picking Eclipse for the IDE platform at a time when every professional was moving to IntelliJ.


And into Scala 3 too!




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