> There's a 'hot' subculture in our society that says 'if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying', that refers to lies as 'hustle', that rewards and embraces deception as just agressiveness and boldness, as a norm for life and business and even a celebration of human nature - as if the worst elements of human nature define us any more than the best, as if we don't have that choice (at least, that's how I am trying to articulate it).
I'm not sure that you intended it this way, but this reads as very oblique (i.e., "wink and nudge"). Which subculture are you referring to, and what particular relationship do you think they have to research in Computer Science?
> I'm not sure that you intended it this way, but this reads as very oblique (i.e., "wink and nudge"). Which subculture are you referring to, and what particular relationship do you think they have to research in Computer Science?
I am referring to no particular subculture. Lots of people around me embrace it, including from all over the political spectrum (if that's what you are thinking).
I think the broader society sets the norms for computer science, as with everything else. For example, when star athletes like Barry Bonds, or entire teams like the Houston Astros, or much of college sports, cheat with few reprocussions (and in the past, that wasn't the case - players were banned and school sports programs were basically shut down, etc.) that affects computer science research.
Yeah, honestly go to any conference in the last decade and you'll see some people who are just... out of place in an academic, like, when they were 19 they listened to a podcast that claimed PhDs made XX% more money, so they decided to do that. These people don't care about research, don't care to understand research, they just want to publish, get their degree, and get paychecks from Google/Facebook/Apple. Luckily I've seen a number of these types of people fail to find any high profile jobs after they graduate, so I guess something is still working.
I'm not sure that you intended it this way, but this reads as very oblique (i.e., "wink and nudge"). Which subculture are you referring to, and what particular relationship do you think they have to research in Computer Science?