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Your comment in no way addresses OP's point. Centuries of tradition are nothing against a new milliseconds of Newtonian mechanics, sorry.

Why couldn't a turban have a chin strap?



Sikh turbans are wrapped into their long, uncut hair. It's not going anywhere.


I've seen plenty of brawls involving Sikh men wearing turbans. The turbans invariably come off even without direct impact.

Also there are non-Kesdhari Sikhs (those who've never kept long hair) and those who've had their hair cut (called Patit ("fallen") by hardliners) but still wear a turban to signal religious and communal affiliation. You might be surprised at how many Sikhs have had their hair cut but go back to wearing turbans again.


I don't know what google now thinks of me for searching "sikh brawl", but here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=md3hNJYtDHg

I count at least one turban-ectomy, with nowhere near the forces of a motorcycle crash. I think we can call that myth "busted".


When it hits the ground going 50mph its not staying on. Period.


Do you have any data behind that?


yes, common sense. people are known to get decapitated on impact. limbs flying everywhere because of the accelerations involved. traditional helmets get ground on asphalt enough to develop actual holes. what makes you think something worn on head has this magical qualities defying the laws of physics?


"common sense" isn't data.

And we're obviously not talking about the forces that would remove a properly fitted helmet (and perhaps head) as well.


Go see accident videos, even with the most expensive helmets if you hit the pavement hard enough you'll get decapitated, this thing is as stupid as it gets. Wear a damn helmet.


Even a poorly fitting helmet will fly right off in an accident. A simple hat won't stay on the part of your noggin that needs protecting.


A poorly fitting helmet isn't spiral wrapped into ten feet of hair.

Sikh turbans aren't "a simple hat".


You have clearly never ridden a motorcycle. I'd advise watching some crash videos before talking about this subject. The forces involved are incredible, even at fairly low speeds.

Asking for data for something so well supported is simply lazy. Go google "Snell tests" to get an idea of what properly designed helmets should protect against.


I have ridden a motorcycle, and know about the forces involved very well.

And the Snell Tests don't say anything about if Sikh turbans will come off at what speeds. Asking for data is a way to counteract "everyone knows this, it's just common sense" drivel that isn't actually true.


Just because something hasn't been measured, doesn't make a conclusion based on logical reasoning drivel.

"Well how do you know that I'll die if I jump off the Empire State Building?! You've never seen ME jump off the Empire State building!"

I'd say that seeing how much of a beating full-face helmets take when they hit the ground hard, it's a pretty logical leap to assume that anything less than that is going to suffer a worse fate.

Unless wrapping it in 10 feet of hair confers some magic physics defying powers.

Asking for data when there obviously is none, and then ignoring logical inference is poor form.


> And the Snell Tests don't say anything about if Sikh turbans will come off at what speeds.

Yes, they do: If they tear a person's head clean off with their helmet, they'll also tear a scalp and hair out.

Sanctity for religion is cool, until you start doing mental gymnastics away from the proof in the pudding.


Have you crashed one?


Just how much hair do you think the Harley-riding demographic still has?




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