Because I'm against lying, and because their own statement contained the logic that it's bad to continually vote on this issue - I'm using their ostensibly given logic because, if we take their actual words as truthful, they are correct. Most people agreed at the time and it was one of the reasons they convinced the public to go along with a referendum.
Usually I can't really take into account the lies of politicians as each side does it and it usually doesn't make a difference anyway (e.g. their electoral promises can be compared to actual behaviour so I can vote based on the latter) and I don't usually get to vote on a specific instance of lying, nor to directly affect the ambitions of the liars. Here, I can.
> you have decided that you know what is best for yourself and your country regarding independence
Yes, I'm a voter so that's implied for everyone with a vote.
> and you're going to act in opposition of that to spite a relatively small number of powerful people whose actions you disapprove of
Yes.
> Those powerful people will not suffer regardless
They will suffer if they lose, as I alluded to above.
> but you and your country certainly will
The country will be fine either way. It may be better or worse but I'm not into eschatology generally, let alone when it's about politics unrelated to war.
> Hence my curiosity about your logic.
That's a more respectful way to put it, you might keep that in mind for future interactions on HN.
That would only make sense for SNP supporters willing to look past their political leaders' lies. The rest of us will do fine if we can punish corrupt and lying politicians. I wish we could do that more often, I always envy those who get by-elections and are able to vote against whichever party has been behaving poorly.
Because I'm against lying, and because their own statement contained the logic that it's bad to continually vote on this issue - I'm using their ostensibly given logic because, if we take their actual words as truthful, they are correct. Most people agreed at the time and it was one of the reasons they convinced the public to go along with a referendum.
Usually I can't really take into account the lies of politicians as each side does it and it usually doesn't make a difference anyway (e.g. their electoral promises can be compared to actual behaviour so I can vote based on the latter) and I don't usually get to vote on a specific instance of lying, nor to directly affect the ambitions of the liars. Here, I can.
> you have decided that you know what is best for yourself and your country regarding independence
Yes, I'm a voter so that's implied for everyone with a vote.
> and you're going to act in opposition of that to spite a relatively small number of powerful people whose actions you disapprove of
Yes.
> Those powerful people will not suffer regardless
They will suffer if they lose, as I alluded to above.
> but you and your country certainly will
The country will be fine either way. It may be better or worse but I'm not into eschatology generally, let alone when it's about politics unrelated to war.
> Hence my curiosity about your logic.
That's a more respectful way to put it, you might keep that in mind for future interactions on HN.