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> society is well below the minimum and ideal birth replacement rates (scarily low in fact).

   The global human population reached 8.0 billion in mid-November 2022 from an estimated 2.5 billion people in 1950,
Your opinion and the actual growth rates do not seem to be in agreement.


> Your opinion and the actual growth rates do not seem to be in agreement.

Believe me or not, it makes no difference to me. I know I'm right.

Even the resident HN golden boy Elon Musk has been very outspoken recently about his significant concerns regarding the forthcoming population collapse. So it's happening whether you want to acknowledge it or not.


Human society survived just fine with one quarter the current population 70 years ago. Why can't it survive with that again? Especially now that we have better technology that makes each human much more productive? Unless you can only look at the world through the lens of capitalism (which requires infinite growth)... but capitalism is definitely not required for humanity in general (human society existed before capitalism and will continue to exist after it).




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