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$20 puts it way out of my price range. It's useful, but when I've been averaging around twenty queries a day and somewhat frequently get back hallucinated responses, it's not worth that price. I wish there was a pay-as-you-go or a lower tier offering.


So you are doing something like 400 queries a month and the aggregate value of all those responses is less than $20 to you? I've got to ask, why bother querying it at all?


Thats stupid, I use search engines much much more than 400 times a month and they are free.


Actually, Google search has an ARPU of ~$256 per year [1] -- i.e. they're monetizing your eyeballs for about $20 a month. I applaud OpenAI: Please keep the service paid & ad-free. Thanks!

[1] https://mondaynote.com/the-arpus-of-the-big-four-dwarf-every...


Stupid? If you had no access to a free search engine would you spend $20 a month on it? I sure would. It is also stupid to think that promoted results aren't a cost for you; if the search provider values it, there must be a cost.


ChatGPT still has a free tier. I don't think $240/year for faster responses + piloting new features is worth it for most people.


You aren’t the customer on classic search engines.

If you don’t use an adblocker with these many searches, you are probably worth more than $20 a month of advertising revenues.


And if someone offered you $20 a month to never use a search engine would you really take it?


"Best new 2023 top 10 monetized link page match you like it please adword affiliate link such many money give me".

Take my $20.00


Mandatory HN Kagi plug.


  > and they are free
The advertisers on Google would tell you otherwise. You are the product, ads are shown to you and you likely will click on one or more of them. Of course everybody says they don't , but the majority of people do.


Mostly because it's free. But it clearly has some value to me, mostly as an engine for figuring out what terms I _actually_ need to search Google for. And if they offered a tier closer to the amount of value I get from it, I'd probably pay that.


Curiosity?


You'll still have access to the general availability version.


I'd like to pay for my usage. It's just that price is too high for my own limited usage. Not getting kicked into the waiting room for an hour every 2 queries is worth something to me.


What price do you think would be "worth it"? With your existing usage, $20/month would be $0.03-$0.04 per query, which seems pretty reasonable?


To be clear, I'm counting "every time I press submit" as a query. 3-4c to tell it "Your answer is clearly wrong because X, and Y" isn't very enticing.

Around $10/mo would be far more palatable, I don't mind if my usage is capped. I simply do not get $20/mo worth of value back out of it at this point. That's basically the price of 1 book/mo, and I'd get more value out of that.


Where do you live that you can't afford 20 a month? Even developers in India and the Phillipines can afford it and are using it


Personally, Canada.

I could afford it, but I don't know if it will be worth the value it brings. My salary isn't U.S.-level high, and I almost never get responses that are incredibly insightful. I do an average of 1 or 2 queries a day maybe.


I find that it saves me at least 20 hours a month. I'd easily pay 500/mo for it.


I use it way less than that and think $20 is a steal. What software do you think is worth $20 a month?




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