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Who cares what they want? I don't. Culture should belong to us, not them.

Copyright exists to allow them to turn a tidy profit so they're properly incentivized. It's not there to enable their delusions of control nor their perpetual rent seeking. They've already turned their profit, now it's time for the works to enter the public domain. Nobody cares whether they like it or not, it's human culture and it belongs to us all.



Copyright means the copyright owner owns the rights to distribute the work. Which includes not distributing it at all.


They don't "own" shit. They have been granted a temporary monopoly, nothing more.


Copyright is a privilege, not a right, backed by criminal law and state violence. With numerous exceptions, like public interest and fair use.

It is not property like a physical object.


Vanishingly little copyrighted material is culturally relevant. It seems silly to paint all copyrighted material with that brush.


Culture is everything produced by humans. Doesn't matter if it's "relevant" or not.


No, there are many copyrighted works which are not a part of culture, by definition. For example, private creative works.


I see what you mean now. If creators don't publish their creations, they won't be experienced by anyone. They don't matter to anyone, we don't even know they exist. I suppose it's sad in an existential way that their works could be lost without anyone experiencing them or any preservation efforts being made but what can you do?


I think it's also important to consider that the sharing of creative works is also not so boolean. Works don't always fall into neat categories of "100% publicly published to the world" or "100% completely private and irrelevant to anyone". There's a lot of grey area in the middle.


Yes, but it's not up to the copyright holder to decide whether a work is culturally relevant.


I didn't suggest that it was. I'm suggesting that this perspective on copyright is very myopic. Regulating copyright as if they are all culturally significant works is like regulating haystacks as if they consist only of needles.


The analogy doesn't hold. Not all copyrighted works are or will be culturally significant, but all have the potential to be culturally significant. We have no way of knowing ahead of time. It's regulating haystacks as if any individual straw may actually be a needle.


A work that is not publicly shared has no potential to be culturally significant.


A work that's not publicly shared will not be copied and doesn't need protection against copying to begin with.


A work that isn't publicly shared by the author could be shared by someone else without permission. Copyright law does and should continue to criminalize this.


A work that is not shared has no value and there should be no criminal sanctions to protect something of no value.

You don’t get to misuse violent power of the state to control spread of arbitrary information


Literally everything "of value" that was ever published was unpublished for some period of time.

Also, people may keep works private not because they lack value, but for other reasons.

As a very simple example, a someone might take a racy photo for their own private use, not because it would have no commercial value, but because they prefer not to commercialize it. And there are hundreds of other reasons why someone might choose not to share a work with the world.


Who are you, or anyone else, to decide what is and isn't "culturally relevant"?


Culture itself does. I am referring to the fact that most things that people create are not published, do not become popular, and don't become culturally relevant.

As much as I wish that my meeting notes from my standup this morning were good enough to become a cultural icon, I'm pretty sure the entire planet, including me, will forget about them next week. Mundane creations like this consist the vast majority of copyrighted works.


> Who cares what they want? I don't.

And what makes your opinion and rights more important than theirs?

> Culture should belong to us, not them.

Doesn't culture belong to everyone, even those creating it? There is no "them", it's only "us."

All you'll do with your approach is make creators less like to ever create unique works.


> There is no "them", it's only "us."

You gotta be kidding me. They literally own our culture. In the most capitalistic sense imaginable. Actual government-granted monopolies on ideas, bits of information. Works you grew up with? You and your children will be long dead before they enter the public domain. If they could delete the copy you have stored in your brain, they would.

> All you'll do with your approach is make creators less like to ever create unique works.

Whatever. Let them find another job then.




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