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> no one is fucking building anything

Introducing rent control makes it even less likely to have new builds. Try to think like a millionaire that could potentially invest in real estate: would you buy a 2 million house not knowing that you can recoup that investment and also make a profit? Isn't it easier to just dump the money in an ETF and get 8% on the market?

> you need it to prevent landlords from just extracting more money

Why do you need to prevent people from making money? Would you like someone preventing bradlys from making that much money? How much is too much? If you work in tech like most people here, you're probably making more than 99% of the world.

Making money is not a problem, if there is money to be made in real estate, investors would flock to it, increasing supply and therefore decreasing prices and profits over time. The problem is when the economics are not allowed to float freely: because of rent control, limitations to building (like zoning laws), insufficient infrastructure (like being stuck on an island with bad connections) etc.



You cannot have housing be affordable and an investment. You need to decouple the two.

Fundamentally these are in disagreement. If you believe that landlords should control the world then keep believing this idea that housing should also be an investment.

I don’t think housing should be an investment. It is impossible for something to be a good investment and affordable. They go against one another.


> If you believe that landlords should control the world

This seems like such an emotional response. The landlords are also controlled by mortgages if they are small, or by boards of directors - and shareholders if they are large.

The landlords can control the rent for their units, that's it.

As to investment properties vs affordable ones, there can be some issue there, for example if you buy a house just to park the money somewhere, but you don't rent it out, you keep it empty. That kind of behavior can be really damaging. These are the only kind regulations I would introduce: 1. don't allow properties to sit empty - tax them heavily. And 2. also don't allow airbnb's in highly troubled cities. Unless you're literally sleeping in the same house with the guests, airbnb's shouldn't be allowed for individual housing units.

> I don’t think housing should be an investment

Let's run a thought experiment: Let's assume you're a retired small business owner that has 5 million dollars in the bank. You can A. built a house in your city and rent it out or B. put the money on the stock exchange.

Everything else staying equal, which of the options would create more housing units in your city?


> It is impossible for something to be a good investment and affordable. They go against one another.

Why do you think that's the case? Many companies are a good investment, while they still provide affordable products. Something can be cheap in an absolute sense, while still providing a good return on investment.


Look, for something to be a good investment for everyone you have to perpetually have the asset go up in value.

Can you see how that is not affordable? Things that go up in value forever are not affordable...


Affordable housing is a loaded term. In the US that means housing whose price is fixed to some percentage of the area's median income. I do not want affordbale housing. I want market rate housing with uncapped supply. This would make it a commodity.




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