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And they still have one of the worst apps (and website) in the game. Seems like that would be some low-hanging fruit.


i still use the old version on web and it works great

i agree the new version is very busy and buggy on mobile web


Yeah, I have Old Reddit redirect on all of my devices, and I won't touch the official app with a ten foot pole.


Never got the complaints with the official app. What's the issue?

Last time I asked someone this question they mentioned some power user stuff that didn't really apply to regular Reddit content consumers / casual posters.


imo it's just unnecessarily busy and can be buggy. if you spend some time using the old web version, which feels very HN like, you'll wonder why you'd ever use the new one.


the app is absolute trash and the new.reddit is almost as bad. if they remove old i'm out


Ah, but I would guess those are low quality users, i.e. they don't vote, they don't comment, they don't post. While that doesn't matter to advertisers, it does matter to the health of your content network. And their features have had zero positive effects on their community health.

You can run an ad on a subway and get more users. That doesn't mean you're doing a good job. The only reason those users have something to see is because of community health.


I would guess they're no different to any other users in the past decade. In other words a percentage will comment and a small percentage will post.

It's always been that way.


LLM's-at-home are in a vastly different place than they were 10, 5, or even 2 years ago, so I'm not sure the assumptions about typical traffic from then hold true now.


What are you basing this on?


Now show us the percentage of those that are real people and not bots, and the number of accounts that are from previously banned users. I mean heck I've gotten to the point where I can only go 2 or 3 months before my account gets banned and then I have to spin up a new one.

Come to think of it that might be a reason why their ban happy, more people you ban who come back looks like a new user signup.


> I mean heck I've gotten to the point where I can only go 2 or 3 months before my account gets banned and then I have to spin up a new one.

User error.

It's really not hard to not get banned. Site-wide, at least.

I'm pretty active and my account is nearly 13 years old.


Pretty easy if you have no controversial opinions.


This reeks of "Oh you know the ones"

https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/105039166355267174...

Conservative: I have been censored for my conservative views

Me: Holy shit! You were censored for wanting lower taxes?

Con: LOL no...no not those views

Me: So....deregulation?

Con: Haha no not those views either

Me: Which views, exactly?

Con: Oh, you know the ones


If you must know some reasons I got banned is horrible awful terrible evil opinions such as

- suggesting that COVID-19 was the result of a lab leak due to not following safety protocols

- Questioning if the full shutdown of schools for a disease which had a relatively low mortality rate in children was the best decisio and if we fully had considered the impacts.

- suggesting that predators could abuse gender self identification laws to gain access to new victims.

- and one satirical posts advocating "let us grill it all in a beautiful nuclear inferno."

It seems though you are suggesting there are only a narrowly defined opinions that are acceptable to hold and that deviations outside of those are so heretical that should not be allowed to exist.


Were you getting banned site-wide for expressing those opinions? Or just banned from specific subs?

Only admins can ban you site-wide or shadowban you, and I can't imagine expressing any of those opinions being worthy of a site-wide ban from an admin unless you expressed them in an offensive way. ie, for the first opinion, using a slur when referring to the Chinese lab workers, or basically in any way accusing them of poor standards because they're Chinese. Likewise, for the third opinion, I've too often seen transphobia get disguised as concern trolling.

If it's moderators banning you from specific subs...well...that's just shitty moderators. Some of them are extremely power-hungry and ban happy, but they're not employees of reddit, and their actions should not be reflected on reddit as a whole.


There is a blog post describing the criminal history of a particular mod. If you post that link on Reddit you are automatically banned.


That growth is predicated on a feature set that has been more or less untouched for over a decade. That core feature set is still very good.

I've seen no evidence that anything they've introduced in the last 10 years has contributed to any of that growth, and my evidence is that just about every feature announced or implemented since then is now either gone or largely ignored by the userbase.


There is nothing special about Reddit unless you mean Reddit was in the right place and the right time to establish a two-sided market.

It's very hard to kill a two-sided market when it gets established. Look at Craigslist or Twitter.

An interesting thing about Reddit to me is many people who look at it see strongly offputting things like being overrun by image memes but when you look at it closely there is so much there about so many subjects. From time to time you find those brilliant social media posts that remind me of some of the emails from the Enron Emails data set where people talk about what they did for training in the army. Perhaps that is what keeps people coming back or maybe they are all about the memes.


I firmly believe that niche content like what you mention is the life-blood of the site, and the biggest contributor to it's longevity. People come for the memes, but they stay for the litany of small communities that cater to their very specific tastes

The fact that people often append "reddit" to their Google queries is a testament to this. Even if they aren't active participants in these niche communities, they know that they are the easiest place to find reasonably reliable information from other humans on them.

If these types of communities stop flourishing on Reddit for any reason, then the site will become much easier to replace by any other generic meme factory.


What market are you referring to at Reddit?


Readers and writers.


Even the overhauled UI has gone ignored by many users, thanks to the old UI remaining available as an option, but I imagine it's only a matter of time before they pull the plug on that so they can "enhance the sponsored post viewing experience".


I have no evidence for this, but my hunch is that an inconsequentially-small percentage of Reddit users go out of their way to use Reddit’s old UI.


Those users are disproportionately mods and active users though. Reddit can't easily do away with it.

They considered this around the 3rd party app fiasco and it was clear old Reddit has a few years left because mods allhate the new Reddit UI


Yes but what percent of active posters use it? It's going to be much higher and the site will die without new content.


Interesting, I used to be a member of the French community which peaked around 2017/2018 and kept decreasing ever since. I wouldn't say it's a ghost town now but it became a minor forum.

I guess they grew in other countries.




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