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> Republican states which openly advertise that they bus indigent migrants with no work permits to sanctuary cities.

Oh, those stupid Republicans! I can't believe they would ever send illegal immigrants that voluntarily want to go to a sanctuary city that has been proclaiming themselves as a safe harbor for criminals for over a decade, to said sanctuary city! Oh, the horror and atrocity!

The only reason the border is wide open is because we don't have sufficient border walls and border enforcement, all of which sanctuary city democrats have opposed and voted against.

If your going to go political, you probably should've just pointed to the open border problem, not target Republicans. But it's obvious whose causing an open border right now.



> The only reason the border is wide open is because we don't have sufficient border walls and border enforcement,

The bottleneck at the border is not physically policing the border, but the fact that migrants have learned to work the legal system by filing asylum requests. So the solution is legal reform, not building more walls. The 2023 border reform bill would have enforced a mandatory cap on the number of asylum requests processed (not just granted, but processed at all). Any migrant asking for asylum after that cap would have been turned away immediately.

> But it's obvious whose causing an open border right now.

I wouldn't say it's clear at all. It's true that the Democrats have historically turned a blind eye to the border. But over the past 12 months: First the GOP leadership said they wouldn't pass border reform unless it was bundled with Ukraine/Israel/Taiwan funding, then said they wouldn't pass border reform until it was unbundled, then they brought the Ukraine/Israel/Taiwan funding back to the floor but not the unbundled border reform bill. For the first time in a generation, there were enough Democratic votes to pass significant border reform, and the GOP votes simultaneously vanished into thin air.


This just isn't true.

The vast majority of illegal immigration happens through legal ports of entry. Usually individuals just over stay a tourist visa.

Republicans have rejected the recent bipartisan board deal that would fund hundreds of new boarder patrol agents, and immigration ALJs to expand enforcement and processing capacity at the boarder. All because daddy Trump wants there to be a border crisis because it's a good election issue for him to run on.

Republicans don't care about governing, they just care about winning.


I made no value judgment about Republicans. That was your projection. The primary cause of border issues is dysfunction in the Senate that prevents asylum laws from being improved.


You blamed the blight of sanctuary cities on Republican states.

The fact illegal immigration is rampant is the source of the problem, not Republican states. It's a cherry picked statement with an agenda.


No I pointed out a list of ways Finland was different from San Francisco so we should not naively assume data from there should generalize. It’s not cherry picked since it was one in a long list of ways the two are different.

Street homelessness in San Francisco has little to do with immigration, and family homelessness has little to do with illegal immigration (families from South America are largely claiming asylum through the legal process).


HN is not the right forum for sports-team red vs blue politics, and that kind of mentality is not good for our nation as a whole. We are all one nation.


Then the OP shouldn't blame the issues sanctuary cities face on Republican states. If illegal immigration is a problem for sanctuary cities, then that is what should be said.

It's not red vs blue to point out an attempt to shift blame on Republican governors.


I was not assigning blame. I was making a factual statement that San Francisco’s recent increase is family homelessness is largely due to bussing policies of Republican run border states. Asylum applicants are in the United States legally while their claims are processed, so the status of sanctuary city has nothing to do with the treatment of asylum applicants. Non-sanctuary cities would treat these applicants in the same way.




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