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Merb gets merged into Rails 3 (rubyonrails.org)
77 points by mojombo on Dec 23, 2008 | hide | past | favorite | 10 comments


I'm a merbist and think this will be good for both the Merb and Rails communities.

That said, I'm a little afraid it will shaft the other Ruby frameworks (Sinatra, Camping). People might make interesting things only compatible with Rails.

When Merb was a pretty big, active minority, it was more compelling to go out of one's way to make interesting libraries (ORMs, gems, etc.) easily compatible with anything ruby.

Rails is gaining modularity, but I fear Ruby overall might lose it. Even after Rails and Merb merge, rails!=ruby.


Merbails consolidation may decrease the generality of some high-quality bundles of code. However, this may be better for the ruby ecosystem at large, especially as the New Relationship Energy with ruby is starting to level off.

Anyway, Merb isn't what Merb once was (mongrel+erb.)

This is a special case of Three Systems (from unix philosophy) where the second system was leaner and faster :)

It does seem that Sinatra has been gaining steam lately!


Off topic pet peeve: Can the internet try and avoid using the phrase "that said" from now on? It is really overused and unnecessary. There have been at least three articles linked to on HN in the last week that use it multiple times and it sounds really bad. Delete this if you like.


With all due respect, you're doing it wrong. Get a blog FTW.

That said, it's all relative. To be sure, people make mistakes, yadda yadda yadda. But I think we can all agree, everyone is entitled to an opinion.


I'm fed up with punks like you complaining about my use of language. I'm not a dump truck. I'm a series of tubes.


Hmmm, HN could use a suggestion engine for related news... there are 4 articles on the homepage about this.


They all have good points and perspectives from different individuals involved in the merger.


I agree but consolidation of all this information in an easy to follow thread a good thing, hence the few comments.


Hacker News could use a merge too. So we can merge together multiple topics like this.


Don't really understand the point of this.




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