> A lot of people don't even know where they are saving their stuff to, so if it's in the cloud or on their device doesn't really matter to them

Until their computer dies, and then they get upset at Microsoft for not having some automatic backup process like they have on the other platforms their friends use.

I made this point elsewhere in this discussion, but it really does matter to them, even though they don't know it.

Third-party doctrine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-party_doctrine

I'm not in the US but the third party doctrine looks obscene to me, is this saying I'd have no expectation of privacy for my full name/DOB/address/ID because I legally had to give it to a bank to open an account, which is an essential thing to do in the modern world to get paid into nevermind spend money? I absolutely have an expectation of privacy for all of those details, doubly so if I am mandated to provide them to a third party

Yeah, I probably didn't formulate that well enough. What I meant was that they don't care about it. Sure it matters.

Thanks for the link, didn't know about that, sounds awful..