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I am amazed people actually believe this

Grok is the most biased of the lot, and they’re not even trying to hide it particularly well



Bias is not the same as censoring.

Censoring is "I'm afraid I can't let you do that, Dave".

Bias is "actually, Elon Musk waved to the crowd."

Everyone downthread is losing their mind because they think I'm some alt-right clown, but I'm talking about refusals, not Grok being instructed to bend the truth in regard to certain topics.

Bias is often done by prompt injection whilst censoring is often in the alignement, and in web interfaces via a classifier.


They are different, but they’re not that different.

If Grok doesn’t refuse to do something, but gives false information about it instead, that is both bias and censorship.

I agree that Grok gives the appearance of the least censored model. Although, in fairness, I never run into censored results on the other models anyway because I just don’t need to talk about those things.


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> it's undisputed that Chat GPT and Gemini insert hidden text into prompts to change the outputs to conform to certain social ideologies

And why do you think Grok doesn’t? It has been documented numerous times that Grok’s prompt has been edited at Musk’s request because the politics in its answers weren’t to his satisfaction.


Nothing you posted (from an almost two year old article btw) in anyway refutes the prior comment.

Grok is significantly the most biased. Did you sleep through its continuous insertion of made up stuff about south africa?

This is the same person who is trying to re-write an entire encyclopedia because facts aren't biased enough.

A group has created an alternate reality echo chamber, and the more reality doesn't match up the more they are trying to invent a fake one.

When you're on the side of book banning and Orwellian re-writing of facts & history that side never turns out to have been the good side. It's human nature for some people to be drawn to it as an easy escape rather than allowing their world views to be challenged. But you'd be pretty pressed to find the group doing that any of the times it's been done to have been anything but a negative for their society.


It takes a lot of chutzpah to accuse people of "re-writing ... facts & history" while peddling AI (and movies and TV shows) that change the ethnicities of historical figures.


Two years is an eternity in this business. Got anything newer than that?


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Can’t help but feel everyone making a pro-Grok argument here isn’t actually making the case that it’s uncensored, rather that it’s censored in a way that aligns with their politics, and thus is good


It's almost always telling isn't it?

Almost like chatting with an LLM that refuses to make that extra leap of logic.

"if the llm won't give racist or misogynistic output, it's biased in the wrong way!"


Has the possibility occurred to you that the majority of the editors aren't American and don't care about American culture wars?

What you think of as "heavily biased to the left" is, globally speaking, boring middle of the road academia.


According to a recent Economist article, even Grok is left-biased.


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Oh the hubris.


Well, it's kind of a tautology, isn't it? Conservatism always loses in the end, for better or worse, simply because the world and everything in it undergoes change over time.


Relax downvoters, I write it pretty tongue-in-cheek understanding full well the scope of “real” political ideas, and think reasonable people can be all over the political spectrum.

This is quote seared into my head because my father says anything that disagrees with his conspiracies, it is a liberal bias. If I say “ivermectin doesn’t cure cancer”, that’s my liberal bias. “Climate change is not a hoax by the you-know-who’s to control the world” == liberal bias. “Bigfoot only exists in our imagination”… liberal bias (I’m not joking on any of these whatsoever).

So I’ve been saying this in my head and out loud to him for a looooong time.




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