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We're not going to play that game.

Pick up artistry isn't about sex, its about power exchange with total strangers. Sex is the socially acceptable prize you win for manipulating someone you hate or resent at least as much as yourself into spending time and attention on you.

It comes from a place of isolation and frustration, it has flying fuck-all to do with appreciating women or integrating them into one's life, and it doesn't solve a goddamn thing.

Thinking you aren't worth someone else's time is the goddamn problem.



I think the "socially acceptable" is the key here. Men who get lots of women earn social credits from both women and men (while women get slut shamed). These are relics from highly oppressive societies. So, in a sense, the PUA is a victim who uses mischievous means to earn societal status.


I'd encourage you to have an open mind for the idea that most guys into this are in it because they are bitter and hate women. Personally it doesn't really impact me what you think and I can see how if I was expose to the same mainstream coverage and asked to form a view, it'd be similar to yours.

Reading your perception of what PUAs are is similar to hearing someone describe hackers as evil people and Hacker News as a bad place.


Those are some cool talking points, bro.

I am not sure they have much to do with reality though.


Enlighten me, niete! With a comment history on here that shows you speaking up only when gender politics are being discussed, I'm confident you have a well thought out perspective to share that I may not have considered.




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