They are not a non-profit because they are not a registered company/organization.

There is no requirement for a non-profit organisation to be registered.

When people talk about a "non profit" entity, they are almost certainly referring to a legal non-profit. Maybe that's not what GP meant.

And yes, you are technically correct in that there's no way to know that they are or are not pulling in money and pocketing it. I'm not sure how that's relevant to the questions asked but okay.

> When people talk about a "non profit" entity, they are almost certainly referring to a legal non-profit.

In UK, a non-profit association does not have to be legally registered to be legal.

There is. Without a legal framework its just an association that claims not to make a profit. This is all word games though as be clearly don't agree on the definition of a non-profit organization.

> There is.

No. In UK, many an unregistered association is a non-profit e.g. sports clubs, volunteer groups, societies.

In UK there is simply no such status as "non-profit", so technically none of what you listed are "non-profit" organizations. These are unincorporated associations, that, by the way, can be making profit (but that would be on shaky grounds, since common law makes it hard not to fuck up, being as vague as it always is). However, there is a "charity" status in UK, and you'd have be a registered organization to obtain it.

Anyway, "non-profit" is (i.e. "only makes sense defined as...") a legal status, it isn't just a way to say "not making money" (after all, we wouldn't call any failing business a non-profit, right?), so it really doesn't make any sense to ask if an illegal underground gang is "non-profit". GP is correct to point that out.

> In UK there is simply no such status as "non-profit"

Incorrect.

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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/non-prof...

noun [ C ]

uk /ˌnɒnˈprɒf.ɪt/ us /ˌnɑːnˈprɑː.fɪt/

(also not-for-profit)

an organization whose aim is to make money for a social or political purpose or to provide a service that people need, rather than to make a profit

(Definition of non-profit from the Cambridge Advanced Learner's Dictionary & Thesaurus © Cambridge University Press)

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That's Cambridge UK.

> However, there is a "charity" status in UK, and you'd have be a registered organization to obtain it.

Again incorrect.

See https://www.gov.uk/setting-up-charity

I'm not entirely sure what this sort of pedantry is meant to accomplish. Congratulations on being technically correct, I suppose?

Both I and GP have pointed out the crux of the matter, and you are ignoring it.

By pedantry, you mean "pointing out completely misusing terms and falsehoods about UK law", right?

> Both I and GP have pointed out the crux of the matter

"They're not 'a' non-profit".

> and you are ignoring it.

No. I am challenging it.

I've seen no evidence either way and so far it seems nor have you. So let's wait and see.

Literally everybody except you knows what I and both GP were referring to.

Everybody including me, I'd say.