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> Guess who runs borders and immigration, which is the use case for PreCheck and Global Entry?

Not ICE?

> Guess who has essentially unlimited jurisdictional limits? ICE.

ICE thinks that. The courts are disagreeing.





First question - CBP, as noted.

Unlimited jurisdictional limits - and the courts will enforce this with whose army? As it were.

ICE isn’t allowed to act on citizens either, and yet here we are.


That last part isn't true. Citizens who impede ICE officers in the performance of their duties can be arrested by ICE. That is specifically written into the law, and it's a statute that can be interpreted pretty broadly.

Why do you think that specific sub case that applies to all law enforcement folks, applies to my statement?

> ICE isn’t allowed to act on citizens

By law or policy?


It’s not legal to deport U.S. citizens but they have anyway. A judge in Minnesota has said that ICE has violated around 100 court orders. We are living in a personalist dictatorship. The courts are ignored when their rulings are inconvenient.

This doesn’t even remotely address the question.

The answer to your question is irrelevant. ICE does whatever the dictator tells it to. Legal basis vs. policy basis no longer matters.

The question you asked, as pointed out, is a non sequitor given the reality of what’s going on.


> The question you asked, as pointed out, is a non sequitor

Not what non sequitur means nor how it’s spelled. And repeating a point in the same comment doesn’t count as pointing it out previously.

To the extent there is non sequitur in this thread, it’s in jumping into a legal discussion halfway to argue the law doesn’t actually matter because you feel like it.


Ah. My bad spelling. That is a great, pertinent thing to point out. I did abuse the meaning of non sequitor. I was trying to convey a sense that is lost on you without writing a treatise. The law doesn’t matter because we are living in a personaist dictatorship. Asking for the policy or legal basis of ICE’s actions is pointless and ignores the reality that ICE doesn’t care about this and no authority in the country is willing and/or able to stop their abuses.

Not who you are responding too, but I tried to look up the legal justifications behind ICE and it’s a mess. Good luck untangling it!



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