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man, i was JUST thinking about switching out windows for bazzite, because the only thing i use my windows machine for is video games...

might need to hold off on that, as much as it pains me, with all the weird & sloppy updates windows is pushing out.



I would still recommend trying Bazzite today.

If we take the post as truth (it's not clear to me whether we can), then Bazzite will get iffy kernel updates that will particularly break handhelds. But desktop will be more stable and you could even turn off automatic updates for 6months and see how things look after.

I think Bazzite has a very smooth experience for Windows gaming and even if you decide that you don't like it or that the distro really is falling apart, you'll have gotten the best Linux-gaming experience and can evaluate other distros more clearly.


Just install another distribution—Bazzite has some conveniences in setup, but doesn’t fundamentally provide anything that you can’t get elsewhere, and a lot of those customizations you probably won’t need.

I decided to try Fedora Kinoite for my gaming machine (to have something with less “maybe not maintained one day stuff” out of the box and a long term community of maintenance), and have been happy.


As I understand it, the primary advantage of Bazzite is that it handles "odd" (read: "nVidia" or handheld) hardware out of the box properly.

If you have normal hardware, something like like Fedora Kinoite should be mostly equivalent.


I’d recommend trying Linux Mint with Steam.


Mint needs to die. It's the most ancient, archaic distro ever.

Replacing something that's SOTA with something that still uses X11 and years old software isn't it (it makes Debian Stable look modern).


I've had issues with Wayland, even in 2025, but never with X11. X11 may be old, but it's stable. Mint is for normal people, not us. I do have it on my travel laptop though, because well, it never has any issues.


Yeah, sorry, I’m a normal person I guess.


I tried Linux desktop for the first time in like a decade. Didn't know Xorg was deprecated for real, as in most distros moved to Wayland. Was surprised that the one hold out was Mint. And learned the hard way that Mint didn't work on my fairly normal PC, due to an Xorg issue.

This is the thing so many people recommend?! No wonder Linux is unpopular.

Also there like 20 competing ways to install packages now. Used to just be apt.


> Also there like 20 competing ways to install packages now. Used to just be apt

This is very incorrect. There's been far more for 35+ years

* apt/.deb

* yum(dnf)/.rpm

* Tarballs

* Ports trees

* Flatpak

* Snap

* Etc, etc, etc


Flatpak and Snap are new to me, and that's the annoyance. Like I get if there's some technical advantage to a snap, but apt can install snaps too. Also idk what .appimage is.

rpm was a thing that existed but wasn't a Mint way of installing. Tar, yes. I can see why you'd consider a tar a package, but I was thinking of things actually designed for packages, and tar isn't really an extra thing to learn and deal with. Port tree, idk never heard of that.


> Flatpak and Snap are new to me and that's the annoyance.

These were designed to solve different problems.

PS - Just avoid snap. Fuck snap. All my homies hate snap.

Flatpak otoh is software basically delivered in a container with some security restrictions. It works great, but you may want a GUI problem called "flatseal" to enable access to certain parts of the host filesystem, device access, etc depending on specifics of what the particular application is supposed to do. That's a bit of a security boundary (good).

Flatpak does solve several big issues with the minor and only occasional need to use flatseal to enable access to say something in /proc /dev etc

Snap happened in 2014

Flatpak in 2015

So you've got about 10 years of catch-up ;)


I'm not really obligated to catch up on that. I'll try Linux again if they ever sort these things out, until then Mac is a fine dev/personal machine.


Are you sure that's okay? It has App Store, .pkg, drag-to-install, homebrew, MacPorts, and who knows what else!


MacPorts vs Homebrew is actually my biggest gripe with Mac dev, but at least it doesn't get in the way of installing basic software. Regular stuff is always intuitive and ends up with a .app. Even lots of dev stuff is just a .pkg you download, macports/homebrew is for niches.


> I'll try Linux again if they ever sort these things out

You don't understand. This won't be "sorted out", this is a feature.

Maybe it's just not for you, and that's ok.


You said it yourself, "fuck snap." But Snap is the default for a bunch of things. There's probably someone else saying "fuck flatpak." The user doesn't win this way, it's not a feature.


Snaps are a Canonical thing and is only used by default on Ubuntu and distro's based on Ubuntu. No other distro uses or recommends them.


Those are the popular distros though. Switch to something else and you trade 1 problem for 10.


If you want to base it on popularity then you should use Debian. Debian and its child distros (of which Ubuntu is one) make up the majority of Linux distros and the child distros are still 99% Debian.


Flatpak is available on every distro.


Ehhhh

Professionally I've only ran into a handful of Ubuntu installs.

Dozens of SUSE

Hundreds of thousands of RHEL.

So if I wanted to help someone new, I wouldn't recommend Ubuntu because it would be somewhat of a dead end.

Fedora gives you familiarity with the largest deployed commercial Linux, while still getting the newest packages out there through either fedora yum or flatpak. Best of both worlds.


Snap is Ubuntu and derivatives only which is a respectable but smaller segment of the options.

It's also a fucking system daemon that runs in the background. Avoid.

Flatpak is available on every distro.


Look I have no love for snap in particular, but it exists as a default in serious places. If you can bury it then great, the less confusion the better. I'm not going to install some alt distro just to avoid it though.

Send Xorg to a nice farm too. Or Wayland. Whichever the bad one is. Competing window servers is a way bigger problem.


(Even if they're all true) Do any of those things matter to a user? If the goal is to ditch Windows and have something else that can run Steam and a web browser and maybe some other applications, being "ancient" sounds just as likely to mean "stable and actually works"


The stability is why I prefer Linux Mint for gaming. Everything just works, even on my modern hardware.

dismalaf: I definitely don’t care about gestures on my desktop computer.


One immediately noticeable thing is the lack of gestures on X11. Touchpad and touchscreen gestures just work in Wayland, most DEs implement them OOTB, even Hyprland has them.

Imagine going from a modern OS to one that doesn't have touchpad gestures in 2026. Yeah there's workarounds but having to config that isn't a good user experience.


I don't use a touchpad on my workstations, my gaming desktop, my servers...

The latest version (with support through 2029) was released last month. It installed and runs flawlessly.

https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_zena_whatsnew.php


It's literally based on a 2 year old Ubuntu LTS... This is what I mean. It's very outdated.


So what’s your alternative?


Bazzite or Cachy

Mint won't even boot for me because it doesn't support my year old GPU (9070 XT). That's a huge miss when someone is looking at an OS primarily for gaming.


I’ll look into Cachy. Bazzite I’m not going to touch because it seems politically toxic.


Fedora Workstation, Fedora Silverblue, regular (non-LTS) Ubuntu are in my experience best for newbs. After that Debian. After that Arch.

For gaming specifically, I've heard good things about Nobara (dev is a RedHatter, though it's his personal project) and CachyOS.


just use ubuntu



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