Apple achieved it with Mac OS X Snow Leopard. Apple then spent ~15 years un-achi...

girvo · 2026-03-21T03:38:47 1774064327

> Although, surprisingly, built on top of absolutely incredible silicon.

To me that's because thats a capital E "Engineering" driven task that Product can't get their grubby little mitts on and ruin.

lmaoguy · 2026-03-21T03:47:59 1774064879

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alsetmusic · 2026-03-21T05:11:24 1774069884

Pretty cool being racist. I noticed people from varying ethnic backgrounds seemed to land in particular divisions (maybe schools in those countries focused on these cores), but I wouldn't ascribe nationality to anything as broadly as you did.

LoganDark · 2026-03-21T04:19:59 1774066799

Minority in Apple R&D is mostly Asian, not Indian

Henchman21 · 2026-03-21T04:39:43 1774067983

I don't particularly care what their ethnicity happens to be. Just write good, bug free code that does things people want. How they get to there from here? No f'ing idea -- but I know that first they have to have to want to and they _clearly_ do not.

andrekandre · 2026-03-21T11:20:26 1774092026

  > Just write good, bug free code that does things people want

in big tech, this is rarely caused by individuals and more by management, just fyi

iJohnDoe · 2026-03-21T14:38:51 1774103931

It's a fair point. The Indian take over is more relevant in Microsoft.

Aperocky · 2026-03-21T03:00:01 1774062001

It has posix shell, all is forgiven, can't complain about UI patterns that I never interact with.

rbanffy · 2026-03-21T10:47:15 1774090035

Exactly.

Who could imagine Apple would eventually inherit Sun’s crown as the king of the RISC unix workstation?

pjmlp · 2026-03-21T13:44:49 1774100689

No one, given how A/UX went down.

It was a mix of not buying Be, having a reverse acquisition with NeXT, Jobs taking over the reigns yet again, Sun doing a bunch of bad decisions.

Nowadays, following the spirit of old Apple, they only care the UNIX underpinnings as good enough, and that's about it.

rbanffy · 2026-03-21T18:18:12 1774117092

Still, they managed to bring Unix to the masses. On a RISC platform even.

And their Unix is just fine.

pjmlp · 2026-03-21T18:20:23 1774117223

UNIX had already won the server room by them with RISC.

Lets not pretend outside IIS with ASP, later ASP.NET, Active Directory, Sharepoint, SQL Server, SMB, there were any other deployment scenarios left for Windows.

rbanffy · 2026-03-22T15:34:47 1774193687

I have to confess I've never seen a modern .NET stack deployment on anything other than Linux.

WillAdams · 2026-03-21T13:59:32 1774101572

I still regret that I did not get a ModBook running Snow Leopard.

tonyedgecombe · 2026-03-21T11:46:33 1774093593

Snow Leopard was riddled with bugs. Take a look at all the updates it had following its release to confirm that.

AlexandrB · 2026-03-21T13:02:38 1774098158

If that's true, consider what it means for modern macOS quality when people look back on SL fondly as the most stable release.

tonyedgecombe · 2026-03-21T13:22:33 1774099353

I think it means they are wearing rose tinted glasses.

EldrRoot · 2026-03-21T15:33:08 1774107188

Exactly. SL was not as polished as people remember it to be. They’re just delusional with nostalgia.

tonyedgecombe · 2026-03-21T17:22:49 1774113769

The noteworthy thing about Snow Leopard is that it was released at all. Apple had shifted all their effort onto getting the iPhone released and development on OS X pretty much stopped.

benjaminoakes · 2026-03-22T02:11:03 1774145463

I thought they delayed Leopard, not Snow Leopard...

gnarlouse · 2026-03-23T13:27:52 1774272472

I have become ~comfortably numb~ delusionally nostalgic.

gnarlouse · 2026-03-23T13:27:03 1774272423

Was it? I remember it being a pretty solid experience.