the PHP devs I know really seem to embody a culture obsessed with 'shipping' that I'm not sure can be matched, and I'm really a big fan of it for that, in spite of PHP's huge wackyness.
true. Problem with PHP is that you cant really write backends with it ( I mean stuffs not related to the http interface ) ,like one could do with ruby , python .net or go. That's fine because native solutions exist. But the lack of general purpose of PHP is its greatest weakness.