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		feld on Nov 12, 2014 \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: ISPs Removing Their Customers' Email Encryption This is what I was trying to get at. It's silly to even offer plaintext communications in the first place.

mike-cardwell on Nov 12, 2014 [–]

We were talking about a theoretical bad client. No client I have ever used to talk to port 587 would behave that way. They would all encrypt or fail. Regardless of if "AUTH PLAIN" was inserted prior to encryption and/or STARTTLS removed.

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