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> The ancient Greeks also had slaves. They were not Negroes but white men who had been taken captive in war. There could be no talk of racial differences.

As Slavic I find this inaccurate and bit offensive :-)



Most people in America would consider a Slavic person white.

There is no scientific definition of "white", it is a social construct that has changed to be more inclusive as various groups integrated into American society.


What is weird from my perspective is how the races as concepts still are accepted and used, even though they are ambiguous and deeply problematic. For example those that have the "pleasure" of hearing "but you are white" will understand that there is a scale of whiteness and you've just been graded on that scale.


Unless and until our recent era of mass global travel results in a highly genetically uniform species, we will continue to have population groups that share allele groupings differently than other population groups which share different allele groupings.


It does not even compute...


Slavs moved into southern Europe 1000 years after Aristotle :)


A bit offensive? Why?


Because there are racial-alike tensions within the Caucasian people, such as Nazi/Jews, West/Slavic, Protestant/Catholic.


Unable to reply to your other flagkilled comment, so I'll reply here.

It's amusing that bringing up facts in a community ostensibly self-selected to prize discovery and reason is sufficient cause to be silenced.

pg and the community he fostered has come a long way since this: http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html


Yes, that is absolutely correct. And I find it sad that such thoughtless mechanisms are exactly what powered the worst forms of racism in the history.

Edit: would just like to point out that I was flagkilled before any response came, so currently my post is invisible in this thread.


I don't know the history of it, but it seems likely that Greece waged a lot of war with the (slavic) countries north of it, so their slaves would be predominantly of slavic descent. Slavic people also have a pretty easily discernable look to them, at least many do, so it's not hard to imagine they could be subject to racial discrimination in Greece.


Lol how do you think 'slavs' got their name? Have you looked at the Arab and Ottoman slave trade?




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