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(Any lawyers here who could weigh in?)

Could a company nullify gag orders if it was their policy to post ALL their correspondence on their website? For example, AcmeCo gets a request from the US Government to share information about one of AcmeCo's customers (e.g. WikiLeaks). AcmeCo scans and posts this letter (as it does for everything it receives including its electricity bill) on its website. Could they then circumvent the gag order this way? What would happen to AcmeCo?



Similarly, is anyone who reads the letter bound by the gag order or only the intended recipient. If the latter, you could always arrange to have someone read your mail first before you do (so you have no knowledge of it's contents and it's secret status), and that someone else would be able to talk about that NSL since they were not the subject of it.


"Could a company nullify gag orders if it was their policy to post ALL their correspondence on their website?"

Not a US-based company, because we have these nefarious things called National Security Letters. The penalty for knowingly breaking the gag order with the intent to interfere with an investigation is up to five years in prison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter

Do you know any business owners willing to go to prison for five years for one of their users?


Just to be clear, this case (or this particular gag order for this case, at least) had nothing to do with National Security Letters. It was a gag order from a regular federal judge.

The answer to the above is still no, however. I don't see how "I post everything I receive" could possibly get you out of "don't post this warrant".


Not to be, ah, subversive, but do you necessarily need business owners willing to go to jail, or business owners willing to employee willing martyrs?

Imagine you hire a number of people who happen to be willing to go to jail for their principles, who are strongly opposed to things like government secrecy, and put them in the line to handle a NSL. If they happen to violate a gag order and go to jail, well, you may have to fire them, but their contract is rather iron-clad and their severance quite impressive, more than adequate to take care of their family during a five year jail sentence...


"Conspiracy".

There really is no prevailing over the legal tarpit - even if your action technically passes, they get you on intent or association. The only time logic really comes into play is writing post-hoc justification of the status quo. The more corrupt "laws" created, the easier such justification becomes.

(PS. given that authoritarianism is creeping in on many fronts, everybody who cares about these issues should be looking for ways to be subversive. embracing one front in an attempt to outrun the others is a losing strategy)


Thx for sharing that. That article says nothing about SCOTUS ruling so I wonder if this will eventually be challenged at the highest court.

I can't imagine a business owner going to prison as you suggest.


Would the case be public if a business owner were arrested? I would assume it would be in a sealed court.


How could you knowingly break a gag order, if an automated system publicly posts all correspondence before anyone reads them?


Because the correspondence comes:

(a) in the form of a valid court order hand-delivered to and served on your CEO at his home at 6am by two very grim federal agents who don't really like getting up this early, or

(b) if you're represented by counsel, it comes in the form of notification to your attorney by the court clerk that a court order has been issued (or perhaps notification from an AUSA if the clerk's office is slacking).


The government can easily subvert the automated system (i.e. if you make legal@somedomain.com -> public record, they email your personal yahoo/gmail account which is not automatically posted).

OpSec notwithstanding. If the government doesn't know your other email addresses, this obviously doesn't apply.

If everything that comes to every one of your inboxes is immediately laid bare for the world to see, they cannot circumvent the process and also cannot prove that you knowingly and intentionally violated the gag order. I don't know anyone who does this, however.


> Do you know any business owners willing to go to prison for five years for one of their users?

The Lavabit guy came pretty close, IIRC, and he's a small fry.

Do you really think the government would jail the wealthy executives of Google or Microsoft? They won't even prosecute Wall Street executives, and bankers are far less popular with the public than tech CEOs.



"Do you really think the government would jail the wealthy executives of Google or Microsoft"

They can, they have and they will. Look up Joseph Nacchio.




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