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> What a truly bizarre article.

Not at all. It would be bizarre if the uses of PDF that the article is meant to address didn't exist, but they do. Just look at https://berkshirehathaway.com for one example.

For a reference, we're a little over a week into the month so far. Yet when I check my browser history for PDFs, there are around 50 entries for August alone. Most of those instances are exactly what the author describes: cases where the format choice led to a worse experience than if that content had existed on a web page instead (or multiple ones). And as annoying as it is to try grappling with the format on a desktop screen, doing it on a smartphone would have been a non-starter, i.e. near 100% bounce rate.



I wish more websites were organized the way berkshire's is. A simple dashboard directory followed by PDFs where appropriate.

My only objection is that I wish more of the content was in PDF, or at least had a PDF options.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1081316/000108131619...

When I download a 10-k, I dont want html to review on my phone. I want a PDF to read.


This comment reads like person who has taken a special case (and even then one that only appears to contradict the "other side", even though it really doesn't)—something like having a 10-K in PDF format—and then constructs an entire (and entirely hypothetical) ideal out of it, just so they can relish in spiting the person they're responding to. It's a crummy way to have a discussion and a crummy interaction to force on other people in general.


The website you picked -- Berkshire Hathaway's -- is about as much of a "special case" website as exists on the internet.

So ironically, this comment of yours describes your own original comment far more than the comment you're responding to.

Also, you do realize the Berkshire Hathaway site's PDF's are especially a lot of long printable documents, precisely what PDF's are designed for?

Finally, please don't assume bad faith ("relishing in spiting", "a crummy way to have a discussion") on HN. It's against the guidelines:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


> The website you picked -- Berkshire Hathaway's -- is about as much of a "special case" website as exists on the internet.

Only tautologically.

> Also, you do realize the Berkshire Hathaway site's PDF's are especially a lot of long printable documents

In fact, I do realize what the contents of the website I referenced are. Do you have an actual argument for why even in the cases of the printable material, there's any good reason to force people to use the for-print form even when they have no need or desire to print it?

And the site doesn't even fit the characterization here. It certainly has plenty of PDFs made for print, but then it's also filled with stuff like this, which works just as well in HTML as it does as PDF, if not better:

https://berkshirehathaway.com/news/jul0820.pdf


In addition to what crazy-gringo pointed out, I would add that Berkshire did essentially what the article recommends:

>Given PDFs poor usability for online reading, user-experience designers should either avoid using PDFs altogether in favor of presenting content on web pages, or, in cases where a printable PDF is needed, use an HTML gateway page.




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